Limbus/Apo. currency

[bercus]

What would you prefer to use currency on?

AF+1 or

Brutal Earring 75
Loquacious Earring 75
Boxer's mantle 75
Flawless Ribbon 150
Charger mantle 150
Jaeger mantle 150

I would say to giv all the NIN's and PLD's Boxer's mantle 1st ^ ^.
Or random since everyone puts 50k into the key item.
But it will easily take a bunch of time to farm 150 coins. Well what do you guys think about that? Is the currency drop rate too low again? I dont think so cause only like 20% of the new AF+1 are really worth it.

[MrWatermonkey]

I wat that earring for my rdm. Very nice. :P

[Lockecole]

Brutal Earring and Boxer's Mantle is all I'd go for. Alot of the AF2 is nice, but seems to just not be worth it for any of the jobs I have. Eventually I may choose a piece here and there, but I'm all over those two above items. :P

[Rex]

Brutal Earring and Boxer's Mantle is all I'd go for. Alot of the AF2 is nice, but seems to just not be worth it for any of the jobs I have. Eventually I may choose a piece here and there, but I'm all over those two above items. :P

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/cohibu/-THF.jpg

I gather you're a thief from your sig and you don't badly want at least those gloves? :shock:

and the head owns for anything solo

[tiberion02]

Body is hot too....

Pants aint too shabby either.

[Vade]

I think I'm going for Boxer's Mantle first, then Flawless ribbon, and last a Loquacious Earring for fun. AF wise, I want the head, body, and feet for PLD, and head, body, and hands for NIN.

[bercus]

I think I'm going for Boxer's Mantle first, then Flawless ribbon, and last a Loquacious Earring for fun. AF wise, I want the head, body, and feet for PLD, and head, body, and hands for NIN.

This will take a loooooooooooooooooong ass time. But GL ^ ^.

Atm average drop 40~80 /run? So with doing this letz say twice a week. you get AWEOME 80~150+/week. With having 12~18 ppl. This means one person can afford one item /week like Boxer's Mantle.

This will mean so that letz say every person if wanted wants a 150Currency Item it will take almost 3~4 months for one item/person.

The price of these currencies will probably be really worth some $$$, what means GS will prolly focus on Sea now even more. >.>

[bercus]

The price of these currencies will probably be really worth some $$$, what means GS will prolly focus on Sea now even more. >.>

Didn't i just say it LOL

ZIGMA (http://www.theorderls.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4916) /wave ^ ^

[Lockecole]

Lockecole wrote:
Brutal Earring and Boxer's Mantle is all I'd go for. Alot of the AF2 is nice, but seems to just not be worth it for any of the jobs I have. Eventually I may choose a piece here and there, but I'm all over those two above items.




I gather you're a thief from your sig and you don't badly want at least those gloves?

and the head owns for anything solo

Sadly enough all those suck short of POSSIBLY the gloves, depending on how good the trick attack enhancement is.

Head- Hect owns it for WS, Optical owns it for TP gain (it has no accuracy, and not even as much r.acc as Optical)

Body- I'd rather melee with Dragon Harness or Scorpion.

Legs- Maybe.. hard to really judge on it, I use Dusk but this could be better.

Feet- R.Acc is nice I guess, and maybe if thats an even more enhanced version of flee it would be ok.

And Im a WAR at heart, its my main, strangely considering my name and Sig. :o

[Elemmire]

Loquacious Earring ftw! That's all I really want. Maybe the Flawless Ribbon for solo-ing or when I go PLD. And I'm not sure about the other stuff... gotta relook at the stats and see if I want em for my future DD job. But to focus on my one job I really care about right now.. I have the Loquacious Earring and AF+1 Body I wanna get :P and then I still have my Excalibur project XD oh I wish I was a 100 goldsmither right now

[Ankiseth]

I'm going for NIN Head, Boxer's, and Brutal Earring.

Going to be super slow since only 5 people in my LS have Sea, but we can get a few coins each (we split em even among everyone) each run and twice a week, so all in due time.

[Zetah]

75 coins for an evasion skill+10 mantle? lol

[Zigma]

75 coins for an evasion skill+10 mantle? lol


It has a lot more shit as well, Eva, Parry, Guading,

just to name a few.

[Demetrios]

150 coins for your +10 evasion cape.

Yeah, not worth it if you're in a HNMLS unless it has some hidden effect.

NIN Feet are godly if they extend the movement speed bonus to from 18->6 to 16->8 or 17->7. Then they'd only have a downtime of 8/10 hours a game day.

The Fast Cast earring might even work for Utsusemi recasting @_@; even something like a 5% bonus in casting time/recast would be worth it.

[Amastacia]

I usually just lurk, but I'mma chime in for a change.

Yes, Demetrios, it will.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were much like a Suppanommi and is not the equivalent of a full FC trait just as the Supp is not a full DW trait, but for casting, it adds something that has NEVER been available in an ear slot before.

If you macro it in for casting, you will not gain the benefit of the reduced casting time unless you include a /wait line, but you will still get 1 second recast reduction unless they decide to gimp the earring for some reason.

[divisortheory]

I'm using my first set of coins for Rogue's Armlets +1. Currently 3/20 on coins, and 0/4 on ingredients. I'm really curious to see how much this "Increased Trick Attack Damage" does, and if it outweighs Hecatomb Gloves (which I strongly believe that it will). After that, I'm goign for the Boxer's Mantle, because frankly it's the single best soloing item in the game for THF.

[Zetah]

How is evasion skill not worth the coins? I notice an insane amount of difference with Prafectus gloves and Evasion Torque, and there's a lot of soloing going on in sea and just typical nms that you can just evade. Also, 10 parry is hot, I'm 251 parry and we all know you're capped.

[Ankiseth]

I hit 205 in last night off of one of the Elementals, 2 levels in 2 days thanks to Sea ~.^b

But yeah, Evasion skill+10 is soooooo worth it, even if it is 150 coins, ESPECIALLY when paired with Parrying Skill+10.

[Zetah]

I want Brutal Earring too though, but not as bad as Eva skill+10 parry skill+10.

[divisortheory]

And +10 Shield Skill. Honestly, for PLDs what more could you ask for except maybe that Flawless Ribbon.

[Demetrios]

I don't think you will parry / shield block / evade at any noticeably higher rate on Tiamat, Jormungand, Aspidechlone, Byakko, Nidhogg, Jailer of XXXXX, etc shit that is 10-15 levels above you. The mantle is probably worth it if your goals are Serket, Roc, Simurgh, or Amemet. A 5% reduction on Utsusemi casting and recast time will help you out a lot more on difficult HNMs.

[Razz]

Excuse my ignorance, but what are the stats on the ribbon? fanx

[Demetrios]

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7542

Resist vs. Light +30
Resist vs. Dark +30
Enhances Killer Effects
Increases Resistance to All Status Ailments

[Razz]

Erm...yay?

[divisortheory]

Assuming you're PLD/WAR, however, you won't be doing much Utsusemi recasting.

[Liltwin]

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4362/brutal8je.png

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3077/brutal20ej.png

8)

[Hirronimus]

I dunno, but even if you sacrifice HP/Enmity from any other PLD head piece, having Ribbon/Hrotti/Tatami Shield on Wyrms, might really increase intimidation. Could be wrong.

[Fira]

I dunno, but even if you sacrifice HP/Enmity from any other PLD head piece, having Ribbon/Hrotti/Tatami Shield on Wyrms, might really increase intimidation. Could be wrong.

demon earring/s as well :o

[Ankiseth]

Besides the obvious answer of being Jesus, how did you get 75 coins already? ; ;

[Azalee]

I am pretty sure two groups from BG went in.

[Hirronimus]

You just answered your own question, but I don't believe that to be true. I'm atheist.

[layoneil]

I am pretty sure two groups from BG went in.

OMG SPY!!!

[Hirronimus]

/breaklinkshell

[Azalee]

OMG SPY!!!

OMFG WHERE!? xD

Nah, really. You people need to read more. xD Last night someone said that another group from BG was going in.

i r reedr!

[Azalee]

I hope our other group comes out well w/ a god stack of chips so we can start the upgrading.

[Jageto]

What else is needed for Boxer's Mantle, just 150 ancient beastcoins?

[layoneil]

What else is needed for Boxer's Mantle, just 150 ancient beastcoins?

yup

[Scunsion]

boxer is 75

[Fira]

boxer is 75

Was under that impression to.

[Demetrios]

Errr... yeah, other two crappier mantles are 150 each.

[Sekkite]

Attack+20 is nothing to scoff at.

[Kuai]

Attack+20 is nothing to scoff at.
but 5atk really > than 3 str and 75 currency?

[DrObvious]

Attack+20 is nothing to scoff at.

True, but it only has +4 attack over Amemet +1, and only +3/3.5 over Foragers.

I'll take +2-3 STR over +3-4 attack.

So, does Brutal Earring give Double Attack?

[NynJa]

Attack+20 is nothing to scoff at.
but 5atk really > than 3 str and 75 currency?
its more like

STR+3 ATK+15(16)
vs
ATK+20

[Litoriceboi]

Brutal earring does give Double Attack

[Maguspk]

Brutal earring does give Double Attack\
only question now is... does the loquacious earring give fast cast?

[Moochi]

Brutal earring does give Double Attack

What's the proc rate?

[Okan]

Brutal earring does give Double Attack\
only question now is... does the loquacious earring give fast cast?

Yes, and it will stack with Rostrum Pumps Fast Cast.

[Sekkite]

Attack+20 is nothing to scoff at.
but 5atk really > than 3 str and 75 currency?
its more like

STR+3 ATK+15(16)
vs
ATK+20

+STR doesn't really do much for DoT compared to +ATT if you already have large amounts of +STR.

[layoneil]

the point is, consider the alternative that everyone can easily buy with gil and use the precious new coins on something else.

[Litoriceboi]

Brutal earring does give Double Attack

What's the proc rate?

We only tested it for a little bit, but it seemed to proc roughly 5%

[Sekkite]

Comparable with an un-merited warrior's double attack?

[Okan]

Comparable with an un-merited warrior's double attack? But that will allow jobs with out WAR SJ (THF/NIN, DRK/THF, etc) double attack.

[Sekkite]

I'm well aware of that. I was just asking if the proc rate double attack is similar to that of subbing warrior or a warrior without merits or double attack enhancing equipment.

[Maren]

a

[Hirronimus]

Maren, you boob. Look at the front page of thread title "AF+1 Stats". >.>

[DrObvious]

I'm well aware of that. I was just asking if the proc rate double attack is similar to that of subbing warrior or a warrior without merits or double attack enhancing equipment.

Isn't that 10%?

[humble]

Obtained: Boxer's Mantle!

First on Siren that I know of.

[frozenflame]

grats humble
is brutal 75 coins as well?

[nivlakian]

I'm well aware of that. I was just asking if the proc rate double attack is similar to that of subbing warrior or a warrior without merits or double attack enhancing equipment.

According to Gradient on KI, the Brutal Earring when he tried it as mnk/thf with staff is 5% and when subbing war it was 15% (suggesting /war is 10% Dbl. Atk.)

Reference: http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=90259

[XxSlusherxx]

If it is truely a 5% boost thats better than WAR AF pants shoes and relic legs combined, thats a little silly if you ask me. I'm not saying WARs need more double attack, but I just think it's silly, it's one of the few JAs that is completly the same when subbed, and the items that enhance it for the main job are so incredibly minimal (the combined aformentioned equipment is belived to give about 3%)

I guess it really dosen't matter, Warrior is a job that needs no sympathy, they are beast as things are. I however find the strengh of this earring to be a bit of a "We F'd up when we gave warriors the ability to have sneak attack(or duel weild) and berserk and double attack at the same time." from SE.

[Raineer]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/kcmichaelm/loq2.jpg

Had this a few weeks now, i'm pretty sure I was the first on Siren. Regardless, it's very badass for RDM/NIN and something I typically leave in most of the time anyways with only 60 gobbiebag slots.

[Ankiseth]

How much of an effect on recast timers does the Fast Cast in the earring have? Like go on NIN main without RDM sub and cast with and without it to see :p

I want to know the effect of it to determine if I ever want to get one for my NIN.

[Raineer]

How much of an effect on recast timers does the Fast Cast in the earring have? Like go on NIN main without RDM sub and cast with and without it to see :p

I want to know the effect of it to determine if I ever want to get one for my NIN.
On RDM main it's a 5% difference in actual casting time. My NIN is only 41 (and rising!), so I can't tell specifically on NIN. As for recasts, it drops a second off Ni and almost a second off Ichi..although I did test these "in practice" with all my gear and Haste spell on.

I'm seeing this being pretty sick also for NIN/WHM (or even to stack with NIN/RDM). I hate the low MP pool on RDM/NIN so this adds 2 benefits to that class.