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ringthree
2008-10-18, 08:51
Got this when I tried to log on today. I have never seen this before.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff151/ringthreetheicp/ffxi_20081018_094503-1.png

dejet
2008-10-18, 08:52
sever? >.> and who cares if it is! have fun lol its going to be going for years.

Tythera
2008-10-18, 08:55
so the most populated server by far is congested, k?

dejet
2008-10-18, 08:57
it made me think >.>
would this mean the other way around lol? more people logging onto that server making you not log on lol. my logic fails atm just got up.

ringthree
2008-10-18, 08:57
Yeah, it's Odin, but even so I have never in the entire time of playing have ever not be able to log on because of congestion.

dejet
2008-10-18, 09:00
so this could be a good thing no? and loloding. >.> to many people!

ShuttleXpC
2008-10-18, 09:05
Nothing really amazing about this, its all the free trial people congesting everything. Just because some people registered the free trial and you cannot log-in doesn't mean the game is perfectly fine.

ringthree
2008-10-18, 09:09
Nothing really amazing about this, its all the free trial people congesting everything. Just because some people registered the free trial and you cannot log-in doesn't mean the game is perfectly fine.

Your logic escapes me. Please to be explaining how more people in the game means that there aren't more people in the game?

I am definitely not saying that the game is perfect, far from it, but usually a game that is dying doesn't have so many people playing it that you can't log on for the first time ever. /shrug.

dejet
2008-10-18, 09:12
Your logic escapes me. Please to be explaining how more people in the game means that there aren't more people in the game?

I am definitely not saying that the game is perfect, far from it, but usually a game that is dying doesn't have so many people playing it that you can't log on for the first time ever. /shrug.


peek JP time+14day free play+ fucktone of people on odin= no log on. drop SE something about it maybe they will do something. i know 10 people myself that picked it up without me telling them. think about that.

ringthree
2008-10-18, 09:15
peek JP time+14day free play+ fucktone of people on odin= no log on. drop SE something about it maybe they will do something. i know 10 people myself that picked it up without me telling them. think about that.

I understand the circumstances that caused the situation, that is obvious.

The important part that you are missing the novelty of not being able to log onto the game.

ShuttleXpC
2008-10-18, 09:15
Your logic escapes me. Please to be explaining how more people in the game means that there aren't more people in the game?

I am definitely not saying that the game is perfect, far from it, but usually a game that is dying doesn't have so many people playing it that you can't log on for the first time ever. /shrug.

People playing for free does not mean FFXI is not dying, it means people are giving the game a try. Now go along and blog about this.

Another thing, if you actually think 3/4 of those accounts created are new players...that's hilarious. Most of the people I've seen even trying the free trial are people who already have accounts using the extra account for some malicious purpose.

Lordwafik
2008-10-18, 09:19
That's silly if they allow new accounts to be made on odin considering their constant babbling on how congested it is.

They're probably going to disperse odin again.

In before Ashira's 2 cents about how she's from odin =^-^=

ringthree
2008-10-18, 09:20
People playing for free does not mean FFXI is not dying, it means people are giving the game a try. Now go along and blog about this.

Another thing, if you actually think 3/4 of those accounts created are new players...that's hilarious. Most of the people I've seen even trying the free trial are people who already have accounts using the extra account for some malicious purpose.

Again, an obvious statement, and again, if the game was really dying a situation that would not exist.

dejet
2008-10-18, 09:24
its not dead/ going to. SE was just not ready to the 14day free people. thats all. give it time it will be fixed.

how many people play on odin? think about it even if 25% of the people told their friends about the 14 day thing thats up to 25% more people >.>.

ringthree
2008-10-18, 09:31
After I finally got on it was 6004 when I did a /sea all.

tyven
2008-10-18, 09:32
how the F are all you people missing the sarcasm?

Leonock
2008-10-18, 10:25
how the F are all you people missing the sarcasm?

I was about to say the same thing...

Seraphise
2008-10-18, 11:27
He needs to be able to put a rolling eye in the title :< lol

Infini
2008-10-18, 13:08
Updates
Oct. 18, 2008 16:07 [GMT] From: FINAL FANTASY XI
Odin World Login Recovery (Oct. 18)

We have experienced login difficulties on Odin World, but we have now recovered from this issue. Thank you for your patience.

[Date& Time]
Oct. 18, 2008 from 13:30 to 15:30 (GMT)

[IssueDetails]
Unable to log into Odin World

[Cause]
Population on Odin World has reached the limit.
(Translation: We're full, gowai!!!)

[Affected World]
Odin World


c.c

Cow_k
2008-10-18, 13:11
Compared to Sylph's usual 1300 people through the week, that's pretty amazing to me.

(2100 people at 2 PM EST on a Saturday, max I ever see anymore is 3000 on a Saturday night)

jimbobsonofgod
2008-10-18, 13:30
I think they should just move the less congested servers around a bit, lower the total amount of servers, which in turn should lower their total overhead, which in turn should lower my monthly fee.

Somehow I doubt it.

I'll take the lowering of Mythic weapon requirements to just needing 15,000 Imperial gold coins.

Starr
2008-10-18, 13:35
uh really I wish they'd merge some servers and filter odin out

Chuyu
2008-10-18, 14:35
He needs to be able to put a rolling eye in the title :< lol
Can't find the meme, but was thinking about it D:. TSM has it in his avatar/sig a few times

BRP
2008-10-18, 15:25
:awesome: and that's more for "trolling."


Few people say FFXI is dead these days. Anytime you hear it is from an outsider's opinion(and an uneducated one) or an upset fan or quitter trying to put weight behind his complaints.

Lordwafik
2008-10-18, 15:34
uh really I wish they'd merge some servers and filter odin out
I kind of wish this but then again I don't wish this until they can instance Dynamis / Limbus / Einherjar .

fren.
2008-10-18, 17:01
Compared to Sylph's usual 1300 people through the week, that's pretty amazing to me.

(2100 people at 2 PM EST on a Saturday, max I ever see anymore is 3000 on a Saturday night)

We'll reach as low as 2500 in the early afternoon (really the only time you can merit in Thickets without getting cockblocked by 4-5 parties in in MJSP/Nyzul)

It's pretty terrible as unless you're doing some instanced shit, xp'ing/farming/camping NM's, playing during Friday-Sunday nights is rather worthless.

Null
2008-10-18, 17:17
This has been absolutely ridiculous seeing all the people that don't understand sarcasm. Especially every other post by dejet lol.

Anyway, hopefully they won't try and divide some servers such as Odin because of this. Because I'm personally just using the free account for personal reasons and once it expires I'll be getting rid of that character. I can assume others are doing the same thing.

Dammerung
2008-10-18, 17:34
uh really I wish they'd merge some servers and filter odin out

Lower server population = less competition for resources = a good thing

Null
2008-10-18, 17:40
Indeed good for some but I don't believe good for all. Personally I don't like that, mainly because when you obtain something you feel less of an accomplishment because things aren't very rare anymore. Even the so called "big accomplishments" such as a relic are becoming somewhat of a bore because so many people have them now.

Sunrider
2008-10-18, 18:38
I don't get it, what is it about Odin that attracts all these people to it?

Kriz
2008-10-18, 18:46
Limit Break Radio, obviously!

6souls
2008-10-18, 19:24
aren't server crashes wonderful? Midgard crashed this morning at about 4-430am EST. Was back up within a few minutes, but it was a server wide red dot.

Ryany
2008-10-18, 19:39
Unless some servers are different than Bahamut, I don't see how any server would want a higher population like someone mentioned earlier in this thread. It seems to me that level sync and higher xp/kill for EP/DC enemies would have greatly helped low population servers be able to get xp in a more timely fashion. All I see on bahamut is overcrowded merit camps, overcrowded king camps, and overbooked dynamis time slots.

If square ever tries to consolidate servers, I'll be breathing fire. I'd love to just pay double the monthly rate to be on a server with half the people (maybe make "premium servers" with a player cap on so they never would grow too big).

SephYuyX
2008-10-18, 19:39
I don't get it, what is it about Odin that attracts all these people to it?

People are sheep.

Kimiko
2008-10-18, 20:54
Speaking of which, is anyone else experiencing really slow connections to POL atm?

Cow_k
2008-10-18, 21:22
Anyone know how many people were online at the time of the Odin congestion problem? I'm curious what max capacity is...

Edit: I'm an idiot. I somehow read over the 6000 people post on the last page.

Pikarya
2008-10-18, 23:41
Your server is over 6000?!?

Silenka
2008-10-18, 23:45
:awesome: and that's more for "trolling."


Few people say FFXI is dead these days. Anytime you hear it is from an outsider's opinion(and an uneducated one) or an upset fan or quitter trying to put weight behind his complaints.

This.

Just the name, 'Final Fantasy', sells this game better than any advertising campaign ever could. Give it a rest about it dying already, no one gives a shit. Play if you like it, quit if you don't, either decision you make is not going to make it die any slower or quicker.

jimbobsonofgod
2008-10-18, 23:49
Less people = less people doing stuff.
Sure its nice when you find a party for you to and empty camp. Just seems lately harder to find parties and harder to find shouts for things too.

Cow_k
2008-10-19, 01:36
Less people also means less developer support ~ Hello 6 month or 1 year patches~

Skjie
2008-10-19, 01:36
Your server is over 6000?!?

What does the /sea all say?!?

fren.
2008-10-19, 03:41
4600 right now.

Latest I've been up, so I'm not sure if this is normal or not for this server, but it shouldn't be that far off.

Seraphus
2008-10-19, 03:56
I think they should just move the less congested servers around a bit, lower the total amount of servers, which in turn should lower their total overhead, which in turn should lower my monthly fee.

Somehow I doubt it.

I'll take the lowering of Mythic weapon requirements to just needing 15,000 Imperial gold coins.

Well... to be honest... that actually sounds halfway reasonable <_< lol



But back on topic, I've seen a huge increase in players, than again I'm also noticing shitloads of RMT Manaburning low levels.

So like.... save your expensive shit to sell sometime around christmas, because RMT will have countless manaburn parties at 75 before the end of October.

Go Go Inflation.

Chezo
2008-10-19, 04:11
BUT FFXI IS DED

THEN WHO WAS SERVER!?

Lebzile
2008-10-19, 04:19
Haha! It's funny because it's not true!

Seraphus
2008-10-19, 04:27
Haha! It's funny because it's not true!

I thought we established that, in this particular title, Ringthree was being facetious. >_>

arus2001
2008-10-19, 04:52
I can appreciate people defending the game, but it's not hard to see some of the corners SE has backed themselves into. Merits are just a temporary solution to level caps, and eventually they won't be able to add more endgame gear if they continue to fear antiquating old stuff. Then there's the comedy of the Mythic quest...

It's annoying when the playerbase can collectively come up with improvements that'd make things awesome, but they usually wind up being ignored. Guess I'll default to PS2 limitations there.

Seraphus
2008-10-19, 04:56
I was talking to a friend earlier and he said it'd make camping HNMs a tad more interesting if you gave Fafhogg, Behe/KB, and Ada/Aspid a chance of an HQ2 (He called it Celestial Behemoth) It was definately an interesting idea.

I personally would like to see the 21-24 King Pop Timers just be 21 hours flat, none of that 3 hour camping BS.

Or do the same thing they did with ixion, You need an item to throw at it to claim it, first RNG to hit it gets claim. (That would help the botting issues to a little bit of an extent)

And as for PS2 Limitations, what do you think the repercussions would be of phasing the PS2's ability to run FFXI out completely?
I'm not even sure if many people still play on PS2 at all.

Hyan
2008-10-19, 05:15
JP's

Naash
2008-10-19, 06:18
FFXI is really dying, too many people try to play at the same time :(

Lepetit89
2008-10-19, 07:54
We have experienced login difficulties on Odin World, but we have now recovered from this issue. Thank you for your patience.



Sure, absolutely, here we go again
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/Darakor/img_20081019_144451.jpg



If you are considering about transferring your characters by using the World Transfer Service or creating new characters on the Odin world, please be aware of the situation beforehand.

I hope this is a joke, they should do something about it already and block Odin, things are getting out of hand.

Starr
2008-10-19, 07:59
Gonna make a mule on Odin and leave it running when im out so it screws over players trying to get on, who'll join me?

DancingEdge
2008-10-19, 08:01
Actually I was just thinking of doing that.


I think I'll do it on both my accounts and leave them running when I'm at work.

Saxon
2008-10-19, 10:09
Gonna make a mule on Odin and leave it running when im out so it screws over players trying to get on, who'll join me?

Got my mule ready. <3

Mytiwar
2008-10-19, 10:10
Would be a flawless plan but you couldn't log it in.

Saxon
2008-10-19, 10:14
Would be a flawless plan but you couldn't log it in.

Touche. :(

Tahngarthor
2008-10-20, 00:55
People think more ppl = easier party forming. Sure, but where the hell are you going to camp? No one thinks outside the box, everyone tries to cram into the same place (sure there are alternative camps but no one bothers to try them).

I'd sure as hell hate to camp late day fafhogg on that server. There must be at least 300 people in a room the size of my living room. Any Odin HNMers out there care to say how bad faf gets there?

Cow_k
2008-10-20, 01:17
I'm actually surprised they haven't blocked Odin already... haven't they shut servers down for world transfer in the past when things got congested? Or at least blocked character creation?

Xanthe
2008-10-20, 06:57
Limit Break Radio, obviously!

Pet Food Alpha > Limit Break Radio :D

Ashira
2008-10-20, 07:11
I'd sure as hell hate to camp late day fafhogg on that server. There must be at least 300 people in a room the size of my living room. Any Odin HNMers out there care to say how bad faf gets there?

Not as bad as you MIGHT think, depending on the time frame his window is in. A number of our endgame shells have long given up on kings, and every shell has people who refuse to camp or magically sign offline just before a camp.

Still, there are days when it's in JP prime, but not ridiculously early morning NA time, when it's pretty laggy. I don't recall seeing 300 in the Aery anytime very recently, or even 200 really - 150 probably though. If it does land in that perfect time frame, is a pretty late day Faf, and no other kings are in the same time frame, I'm sure we hit 200+ very easily.

Have to say, with what I'm hearing from everyone, guess it's a good time for my computer to have gone caput. ;)

Sharv
2008-10-20, 07:15
Limit Break Radio, obviously!

I found that hilariously funny.

ninjafox
2008-10-20, 13:01
Its obvious people are coming to stalk Ashira...

ad3285
2008-10-21, 03:40
I don't get it, what is it about Odin that attracts all these people to it?

There's a well-known JP FFXI Game magazine written by a couple of JP players playing in Odin.
Peaberry and Osho? Can't really remember :)

Which is why i believe most JPs who went on the 14-days trial want to play on Odin.

spooky
2008-10-21, 03:54
I want my 3 pages back.

Arximiro
2008-10-22, 18:11
Only 1212 people on atm on Cerb during NA primetime. I can't believe you guys hit 6k on Odin.

Lordwafik
2008-10-22, 18:31
Only 1212 people on atm on Cerb during NA primetime. I can't believe you guys hit 6k on Odin.
Difference being a weekend. Try again on a weekend

SephYuyX
2008-10-22, 22:47
Ragnarok's weekends seem to be less in numbers.

Corrderio
2008-10-23, 02:33
Does SE have any type of "Free Server Transfer" NPC on the Odin server? Back when I made my REAL first character (Can't remember what server I was on, erased him then jumped on Cerberus to hang w/ some friends from an older MMO.) There was a NPC in GM that was there for a limited amount of time. I can't remember what the exact dialouge was. But he said the server I was on was very crowded and if I wanted to be transfered to a random server that was less populated for free I could have my account flagged for that and they'd transfer me once the offer was over.

Curious if they have a NPC like that anywhere in Odin like that.

Suteru
2008-10-23, 07:14
I think that was when they were opening the new servers like Hades, etc.

I can't remember any of the other ones because Hades was the server that people from Ifrit and a couple of other servers went to.

Lordwafik
2008-10-23, 07:33
They did it on Odin once before when it became overcrowded. However, they stupidly had the options of going to Remora or Hades, aka nobody left. If they allowed free travel to any server then they'd get a lot of people moving.

I'm sort of surprised they haven't offered it yet, but on the other hand they probably don't want an influx of people hacking/stealing/RMTing accounts over with a free transfer.

levish
2008-10-23, 08:12
14 day free trial on normal servers is a big mistake imo, should have put the 14 day trial people on their own server with no transfers

Thiefami
2008-10-23, 08:25
14 day free trial on normal servers is a big mistake imo, should have put the 14 day trial people on their own server with no transfers

I couldn't agree more, or you could put them on an already dead server...like ramuh

Corrderio
2008-10-23, 15:55
I think that was when they were opening the new servers like Hades, etc.

I can't remember any of the other ones because Hades was the server that people from Ifrit and a couple of other servers went to.

Maybe there to, but when I first seen it, it was when I first played. Back in November 2003 I believe....

Personally I think SE should do that every now and then to help with servers from getting too crowded. I'm sure there's people on Odin who'd want to leave, but don't want to spend 20 dollars for it.

kyosak
2008-10-25, 07:08
Odin server just got this message in Whitegate

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr154/kyosak/overflow.jpg

There were 740 people in the zone and about 5300 people in the entire server. It took me around 4 tries to log in...

Not Kuno
2008-10-25, 07:09
There were 740 people in the zone.

Ouch. Bahamut is sitting at 675 in wg atm. Pretty sure the zone cap is 700.

Liseth
2008-10-25, 08:53
Martial Law in Whitegate!

Not Kuno
2008-10-25, 08:57
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/72/250px-Marshall_Law_Tekken.jpg

You rang?

Lyramion
2008-10-25, 11:05
It´s on !

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/03/Mog_of_War_by_brandokay1.jpg

Cyprias
2008-10-27, 03:48
There were 740 people in the zone and about 5300 people in the entire server. It took me around 4 tries to log in...

Whitegate always gets congested in Odin. :/ It's the login difficulties and the 5 seconds between each item in your Mog House lag that gets frustrating when there is 5~6K people online.

Attila
2008-10-27, 08:59
I can't believe the epic amount of whoosh that page 1 got.


That said, I actually remember a few years ago when they offered people the chance to leave Caitsith for free (this was long before the pay-service was offered). Like said above, all they need to do is not restrict the destination, and more people would probably take advantage of it. You've always got 1 super bad ass LS that thinks they can move into town and kill the sheriff.