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Eaglestrike
12-01-2008, 09:47 PM
I never was good with shortcuts in my other computer games and pretty much use keybinds in WoW as they're setup in FFXI. Except that with the wasd controls and a hand on my mouse I normally only "easily" reach 1-5, so I only typically use 1-5 and shift/1-5. I need more, but I'm not really sure where I can get some more "easy access" keybinds. I'm not sure what I could really get used to pressing consistently. I'm thinking this will be for the new paladin taunt coming and my guild leader wishes me to be able to mark rather quickly, preferably quicker than marking things manually. What keybinds do you guys typically run with?
izembo
12-01-2008, 09:48 PM
1-=, shift1-=, and alt1-= <_<
Boyiee
12-01-2008, 10:08 PM
I use 1-= sometimes clicking the ones towards the end, and use:
Shift+1234
Shift+QWERASDXCV
On my old paladin I used to have fghjk for targets. My pinky is almost always on or next to the shift key, because of wsad and my PTT in vent is my G12 key (next to caps lock) so shift is easy to press.
Correction
12-01-2008, 10:47 PM
don't be shy about rebinding a or d, since nobody should be keyboard turning. I bind (shift + ) t g b to short CDs that I use more than once per fight (e.g. shouts on warriors, trinkets, pots).
that plus (shift + 1-6) on my keyboard (I have big hands but my keyboard's split down the middle, being 'ergonomic') is PLENTY. For long-ass cooldowns that I don't need in combat or during emergencies, like bandages, mounts, ports. I just fade out a hidden actionbar on the right side of my screen and mouse over it when I need it visible.
I thought raid markings were specifically added to the keybindings menu a few patches back. I can't verify right now. If you want something faster I don't have a macro for that that's newer than 2007 so I don't think it'll work now.
Boyiee
12-01-2008, 10:54 PM
There are alot of keyboard turners, and some of those people are in major guilds and/or are big time pvp'ers, so don't say something like nobody should be doing it.
Only reason I don't rebind a & s is for when im lazy and take one arm off my desk, or am watching tv while flying somewhere and need to turn slightly... sometimes in towns... basically randomly and sporadically in places that aren't pvp/instance related.
edit:: now that I think about it, I used to keyboard turn/strafe a lot when I had my paladin, did it through BT and sunwell. For just a slight turn to make sure things are hitting you from the front and not from anywhere else. Lotta clickers out there too. I can't see myself clicking more than I already do though(like 5 buttons), I don't know how people do nothing but click.
I also keep A and D bound to movement. I have my strafe keeps unbound so I need A and D to strafe a lot.
I personally find using control/shift + numbers very awkward (I like keeping my fingers on WASD most of the time) so I have avoided using those. I have stuff bound to F, G, Q, R, Z, X and C. I also use ~. I don't go above 7 for anything and I really only use 1-6.
F-1 and F-2 are depoison/decurse (I don't use these often). F-5 is ground mount and F-6 is flight form. F-7 to F-12 are marks - just having them bound makes them quick, don't really need them on a "main" key.
Noobta
12-02-2008, 05:47 AM
I use alt+1/2, past that feels awkward. On my hunter I'm out of keybindings, I need to buy a gaming mouse for more buttons.
Galaika
12-02-2008, 07:51 AM
I use 1-6, Q, E, R, F, G, Shift Q, Shift E, Shift R, Shift F and Shift G. Just bound Ctrl R to my mount as well.
synistar
12-02-2008, 09:04 AM
My buttons are far too messed. My heals are bound G-L. Fear ward is Alt-E, Ctrl-E abolish disease. Dispel Magic Shift+1. Shackle Alt-Q. Mass Dispel Alt+1. T-O with Alt-U are my regular nukes/dots. Alt-Z land mount, Alt-X ground. Mouse main movement with A and D as strafe, S ans back. Rarely use W. Using other Alt buttons for trinkets/abilities. Click other no-so-often used abilities.
And my hands are still attached and in working condition.
Gulkeeva
12-02-2008, 09:17 AM
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Hotkey bug! (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?forumId=10023&sid=1&topicId=12454665647&pageNo=1)
Shuemue
12-02-2008, 09:29 AM
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Hotkey bug! (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?forumId=10023&sid=1&topicId=12454665647&pageNo=1)
Thing is, they could easily disable Alt+F4 so it doesn't kill WoW, that way people could use it for keybinds. So yeah, the guy who posted that thread has a valid point. It's lazy by Blizzard.
Fayttt
12-02-2008, 02:06 PM
Heh, I'm one of the few who hope they don't get rid of ALT+F4 killing WoW. It's the quickest way to kill it sometimes when server is crashing or something and you can't go to the menu and hit exit game. CTRL ALT DEL takes fucking forever on Vista ultimate.
Shuemue
12-02-2008, 02:07 PM
They could simply make it optional
LinktheDeme
12-02-2008, 02:18 PM
I don't understand keybinds and macros in wow. I don't see whats the need for them anyone wanna tell me what they are actually used for and some examples?
This is coming from someone who used to windower macro every piece of EQ for each individual spell and ability (Had a provoke gear swap too <,<)
Noobta
12-02-2008, 02:20 PM
Because clicking is terrible when you need to react fast.
LinktheDeme
12-02-2008, 02:33 PM
well theres mainly only 5 abilities I need to use from what i've seen fast and those don't really have to be macroed. And I want to macro Righteous Defense to the person with hate but I feel like in instances and raid's later on the best way about it will be to just hit the number then the corresponding F key because it won't always be that same person. Maybe I just don't have enough important abilities yet as a 32 paladin though.
Noobta
12-02-2008, 02:39 PM
When you're 80 and have 2-3 bars of abilities then clicking is really bad. It's also funny watching keyboard turners in pvp, probably trying to click everything. Or a keyboard turning tank turning at 5mph to get a mob off the healer.
Halion
12-02-2008, 03:00 PM
Is it just a matter of mouse sensitivity to be a good mouse turner then? I find it annoying that to turn "fast" I have to turn a full quarter in either direction which often overshoots what I'm aiming for, or if I want to turn halfway around it's actually a bit dizzying as the camera rights itself twice in quick succession.
Shuemue
12-02-2008, 03:16 PM
Do people bind jump to their mouse too?
aurik
12-02-2008, 03:16 PM
There's a reason why mouselook users always slaughtered keyboarders at doom.
Personally I've gone to my quake bindings: rdfg for fwd/back/leftstrafe/rightstrafe, mouse-look on left mouse, character-turn on right mouse.
I just wish there was a better way to pick targets than clicking on nameplates D: tabbing through targets is way too sketchy in WoW to be reliable.
Boyiee
12-02-2008, 03:30 PM
I don't understand keybinds and macros in wow. I don't see whats the need for them anyone wanna tell me what they are actually used for and some examples?
This is coming from someone who used to windower macro every piece of EQ for each individual spell and ability (Had a provoke gear swap too <,<)
Keys 1 through = are not enough, and keys 5 or 6 > to the right are too far of a reach. It's much faster and easier to "feel" or do a keypress without looking or accidentally hitting something I don't want to when instead I just hold my pinky down (since it hovers over shift) and press the same movement keys or 1-5 to give me a different ability.
WoW happens fast, it's nothing like ffxi. Most aspects take lots of spamming of several abilities, if you have to look, feel around, click, or anything like that; you are being that much less efficient. Some moments randomly in a fight where I need to use this ability which is more uncommon over something I've been spamming, it's nice to be able to do it in the same exact reaction time by pretty much pressing the same exact key.
Eaglestrike
12-02-2008, 03:49 PM
well theres mainly only 5 abilities I need to use from what i've seen fast and those don't really have to be macroed. And I want to macro Righteous Defense to the person with hate but I feel like in instances and raid's later on the best way about it will be to just hit the number then the corresponding F key because it won't always be that same person. Maybe I just don't have enough important abilities yet as a 32 paladin though.
My basic keybinds are:
1= Hammer of the Righteous = 6s cooldown
2= Shield of the Righteous = 6s cooldown
3= Judgment of the Light = 9s cooldown
4= Judgment of Wisdom -> changing to the new taunt when it comes
5= Hammer of Justice = 30s cooldown
6= Righteous Defense = 8s cooldown taunt.
Shft-1 = Holy Shield = 8s cooldown
Shft-2 = Consecration = 8s cooldown
Shft-3 = Avenger's shield = 30s cooldown
shft-4 = Hammer of Wrath = 6s cooldown
Shft-5 = Cleanse = no cooldown
Spells I also use but more situationally:
Exorcism, Holy Wrath, arcane torrent, my two heals, sacred shield, Lay on hands, divine shield, divine protection...avenging wrath...
I'm trying to find keybinds for the other spells, going with alt-1/2 for my undead and have divine protection macro'd, but it's all a matter of whether I can get used to doing it instead of clicking on them, lol.
But yeah...there are a lot of things you pick up along the way as you level that begins to give you so many abilities it starts to stretch your keybinds out and require macro's. It's easy stuff early on while leveling but you need to react very quickly, ESPECIALLY as a tank in raids, so keybinds are very important. Which is why I'm trying to get used to using more...trying, heh.
synistar
12-02-2008, 03:54 PM
well theres mainly only 5 abilities I need to use from what i've seen fast and those don't really have to be macroed. And I want to macro Righteous Defense to the person with hate but I feel like in instances and raid's later on the best way about it will be to just hit the number then the corresponding F key because it won't always be that same person. Maybe I just don't have enough important abilities yet as a 32 paladin though.
You'll end up macroing/hotkeying a good dozen buttons. Hand of Freedom/salv/protection definite hotkeys. AW/Trinket macro would work wonders. I have a self and other person buff cast sequence so I dont have to click 3/4 buttons every time. I think it was "/castsequence[Power Word: Fortitude, Divine Spirit, Shadow Protection, Inner Fire. target=self]" or something like that.
Righteous defense pre-3.0 I had a macro that had it target my target's target. And if it was anyone but myself, I hit the button and it would fire off. Still works to an extent but when I AoE pull it lost its usefullness a bit. I think it ended up being a conditional macro that was if target = help, Righteous Defense, else Judgement of Light on target = harm or someting like that.
chillin
12-04-2008, 02:24 AM
i play on a macbook so my keys are close, cntrl+w/e is awkward so i avoid those binds.
keys I have bound:
12345678
QERTFGHZXCVB
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shift of all the letters up there (some of them are to cast on my focus, focus wind shock, focus purge, focus intercept, focus pummel etc). a good thing to do is to bind strafe to A and D instead of Q and E.
also, I bind cure poison/disease/curse to my mouse-scroll, because i tend to need to spam those and it's pretty efficient. i'd recommend cleanse for you.
Melena
12-04-2008, 04:09 AM
1-= for me, wtih ctrl and alt versions for lesser needed items. F is universal for anything one time specific like core tossing on vash, when i'm fishing, mass disenchants, etc, b is my pvp trinket macro, custom tricks of the trade macro to have it automatically go on the tank, another custom to hit blade flurry + another trinket simultaneously. My warrior is only 56 so haven't done too much custimization on that.
Also depending on what i'm doing, since I don't pvp very often, for minor adjustments I do keyboard turn, if I have to do any snap turns and runs *hackcoughIChackcoughhaigancouhg* i'll mouse turn.
Noobta
12-04-2008, 07:20 AM
My universal key is ~, sucks because that's also my vent key :(
Tirrock
12-04-2008, 08:26 AM
I put all my common stuff on 1-5, then alt 1-5, and ctrl 1-5. My mouse has programmable buttons and I love it. :D
I used to use my G15 (old style) keys, but moving my hand off WASD made it kind of suck. At best I ended up using G9 and G12 (right by the caps lock key). Doesn't matter much since the G15 binder add-on has been broken since lich king.
I didn't really think of binding QERFG before, that's a good idea. I might have to bind the strafe keys to A and D. I've been training myself to not keyboard turn lately and I don't do it nearly as much as I used to. It hasn't been too hard to break this habit since I've only been playing for 3 months.
I started with ~123...= and ctrl and alt variations of that, still ingrained with ffxi sensibilities. But yeah, wow is much higher tempo, the average cooldown is way shorter than 5 minutes, even your "oshit" button is ten minutes cooldown tops, as opposed to 2 hours. Also no real lull in getting new stuff like the usual 55-merit JA drought.
Anyway, now I've bound my keys around my wasd more, but it's still not how i'd like it to be.
~ Kill Command
1 Arcane Shot
2 Steady for comfy spammage
3 Serpent Sting
4 Hunter's Mark/Pet attack
5 BW
6 trinkets
7 mend pet
ctrl
1 AotV/AotDH switching
2 Rapid Fire
3 Barrage
4 Multi
Alt
1 intimidation
2 Wing Clip
3 Concussive Shot
misc
Tab Freezing Trap
A Feign Death
E Disengage
V Killshot
Rest I usually click, but the current setup is kind of annoying for some keys (binds with Alt are slower than I'd like), and I have some stuff that Is bound on stuff like ctrl+0 and is largely useless there. So sad I borked my G11 when I spillt water over it, was so very handy. I guess I'll try to figure something out with either shifting movement away from wasd to something farther to the right, or start using shift instead of alt. My binds seem to be the same as my UI, constant work in progress. ;p
Edit: If you configure the Logitech software to bind the G-keys to some obscure button combo (ctrl+shift+numpad 0 to 9) for example, you can use it without any addon, should work fine. I used to have bags/spellbook/talentpane/map and junk on there, the stuff you don't need to press in life or death situations, but it opened up some close keys to rebind.
Tirrock
12-11-2008, 12:23 PM
Edit: If you configure the Logitech software to bind the G-keys to some obscure button combo (ctrl+shift+numpad 0 to 9) for example, you can use it without any addon, should work fine. I used to have bags/spellbook/talentpane/map and junk on there, the stuff you don't need to press in life or death situations, but it opened up some close keys to rebind.
Why didn't I think of that? I can use my G buttons again! :princess:
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