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[jimbobsonofgod]

Then you have to get the 3 PW triggers which don't like to drop

Well 1)I can honestly see square making ZNM trophies 100% drops when they adjust ZNM
2) you can farm up zeni while you are doing the other events.
3) its 67500 zeni for 3 T4 pops and ports , so an average of 800 zeni an hour so 84 hours of handing in plates, not including popping/killing all of which can be done while you are doing the other requirements though. ( in a month need to hand in 40 plates a day that's 3 trades of plates a day to get 67,500 zeni in 28 days.)

[Therin]

A month, tops...though everyone definition of average will vary. I'd say someone who plays 3h weekdays, 6h weekends...about 30h/week is average?

I don't think 30 hours per week is average, but it probably is average of all the people interested in Empyrean weapons. That's about how much I play, anyway.

The average player is probably less than 10 hours a week, but I doubt he'll ever even try to get an Empyrean or Relic.

[Spira]

Lower/drop alex requirement and make hides/skins from znm 100% are what Mythics need, requirement wise.

definitely second this.
or even better yet just make it any 2 of the 4 paths that were originally required.

trophies need to be 100%, but generally ZNMs need a bit of overhauling...
zeni cost probably shd be lowered, or zeni/pic increased. zeni NMs should probably start giving decent EXP chunks too lol.
their loot isn't worth the effort anymore anyway, nor is it as much effort to begin with since theres the lv cap increases..

i don't really see them changing pop nm systems like they're gonna do dynamis and limbus.. so they might as well make them more accessible and casual friendly

[Charismatic]

A month, tops...though everyone definition of average will vary. I'd say someone who plays 3h weekdays, 6h weekends...about 30h/week is average?

30 hours a week average? No fucking way.

[Michelob]

Well 1)I can honestly see square making ZNM trophies 100% drops when they adjust ZNM
2) you can farm up zeni while you are doing the other events.
3) its 67500 zeni for 3 T4 pops and ports , so an average of 800 zeni an hour so 84 hours of handing in plates, not including popping/killing all of which can be done while you are doing the other requirements though. ( in a month need to hand in 40 plates a day that's 3 trades of plates a day to get 67,500 zeni in 28 days.)

I'm not saying it would add length to the total time frame of the completion of the weapon, however that is a very large commitment of actual time spent especially with the PW triggers being far less than 100% currently. In terms of total time spent actually doing all of this stuff, it is a joke to even try to compare the time spent making an mythic to the actual time spent making an empyrean, let alone the physical minimum time frame in days needed due to limitations.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Stuff

Yeah I know having done both personally i don't see how square is going to change mythics to being on par with the ease that is emp weapons. If 30 days to complete is the ideal for mythics you can easily complete ZNM trophies in 30 days if they change to 100% drop on T4's which they will probably end up doing. Its all the rest of it that's the problem lol.

If they want mythics on par with emps they will have to:
Titles
Remove assault reclear requirement
50,000 ichor
50,000 tokens
10,000 or less alex
100% T4 ZNM drop
anything over that then emps will still be way easier.

For relics all they really need to do is remove the wait a week at the end of each stage.
If you average 400 coins a dynamis run you're looking at 44 days to complete a relic.

[Not Kuno]

CLAUSTRUM HERE I COME

[NynJa]

I don't think 30 hours per week is average, but it probably is average of all the people interested in Empyrean weapons. That's about how much I play, anyway.

The average player is probably less than 10 hours a week, but I doubt he'll ever even try to get an Empyrean or Relic.

How are you going to get anything done in this game at 10 hours a week?

[jimbobsonofgod]

How are you going to get anything done in this game at 10 hours a week?

Log in AFK in jeuno for an hour a day, on Saturday exp for 3 hours.
Or just play Saturday and Sunday

[Julian]

How are you going to get anything done in this game at 10 hours a week?

Eh, it's not hard.

I've completed 2 weapons, about 50% on my 3rd, and have most of the AF3 I already want, and the ones I'm still missing I should be completing soon on future emp paths.

If you play 10 effective and efficient hours a week, it's not that bad. I doubt most casuals have this kind of work ethic though, so I'd probably still agree with what you said.

[Guitarman]

My hope out of this is if they ease the requirements on relics/mythics enough, maybe it'll take some of the congestion out of empyrean farming. With the mergers that's my biggest concern. Having to fight 4 other groups for cara is just not fun.

[Burningthought]

I'm too busy to do it right now, but I'll update OP with new dev tracker info later tonight.

[Gwynplaine]

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A sticky in the General Discussion forum. Oh the humanity.

[Necronus]

How are you going to get anything done in this game at 10 hours a week?

I run an Abyssea shell. I play about 10 hours a week. Just over half my time in game is with my shell. We do 2-3 hours each run (2x a week) usually building an entire +2 for 1-2 people, from scratch if that's where they at. Since inception of Abyssea I've built 3 +2 pieces, and 2 +1's but I have about 2 +2's that have been sitting at 5/6 for months and several +1s at various points of partial completion. For most people that's like what? 1-2 weeks work TOPs while sharing loot with a shell, for me its just a nice pace and my playtime is why I will NEVER level more than my 2 jobs, just on principle of wanting to be on top of my main jobs gear as best I can (BLM) while my secondary job is only for backup as I'm one of only 2 BLU in our group of shells that share a vent.

[Michelob]

For relics all they really need to do is remove the wait a week at the end of each stage.
If you average 400 coins a dynamis run you're looking at 44 days to complete a relic.

SE said on the official forum (I think that's where it was at least) that they intend to lower the currency drop rate in Dynamis but with the decreased entry timer they still expect more currency to be circulating on the whole. I'm not so sure you'll be looking at 400 per run average anymore.

[Draylo]

You still get to go everyday though as opposed to every three days.

[Cail]

A sticky in the General Discussion forum. Oh the humanity.

OH DEAR GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[cdgreg]

Eh, it's not hard.

I've completed 2 weapons, about 50% on my 3rd, and have most of the AF3 I already want, and the ones I'm still missing I should be completing soon on future emp paths.

If you play 10 effective and efficient hours a week, it's not that bad. I doubt most casuals have this kind of work ethic though, so I'd probably still agree with what you said.

You've also triple boxed most of that though right? Most of the time in ffxi is wasted trying to find people for X, or organizing found people for X. You sir, don't have to worry about that as much!

[Colenzo]

HEY GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW THIS OR NOT BUT IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS TO PLAY THIS GAME WITH IS REALLY FUCKING EASY. HAHA ENJOY NOT HAVING MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS LIKE ME AND GETTING NOTHING DONE BECAUSE NONE OF YOU HAVE FRIENDS.

[Colenzo]

oh wait