Random Facts Thread

[Masamune]

PS: I found tables. Life will never be the same.

Indeed, "WoW" , Great tests also ! /clap Byrth

[Yugl]

Not sure how it would approximate it any better than doing WSs with RR.

[Yugl]

Much easier way to build an exclusion zone with certainty. For example, if you see non crits with a base crit rate of 95%, you know it's less than 5%.

Ah, yes. I should refrain from posting right after getting up.

[RitzCracker]

Mistake.

[Byrthnoth]

Okay, works for me!

Also, I just parsed an 11% Parrying rate against DC mandies in Abyssea-Altepa with skill 30 levels under cap, which kind of violates my assumption that skilling Parrying is for chumps.

[Foldypaws]

Okay, works for me!

Also, I just parsed an 11% Parrying rate against DC mandies in Abyssea-Altepa with skill 30 levels under cap, which kind of violates my assumption that skilling Parrying is for chumps.

>_<

Damn it, don't tell me that I need to level parrying!

[Kirschy]

I'm interested in anymore parry data you get!

[Masamune]

Just read this in Mythic/Relic thread

True or fake ?
I remember i asked the question here and got answered nothing proven regarding Mythic90 WSboost ?

Anyone has a Gastra90 or DeathPenalty90 to test ?

[Yugl]

After factoring in SC Bonus, Orthrus looks like he has a 93% MDT (Tested using Darkness SC; this is not a precise number, it's just to be clean). This, of course, assumes no resist or dy bonus negation (Wind, so if the damage was earth based, it's possible).

Darkness: 258
Benthic: 3830

SC Bonus: 1.08

[Radec]

After factoring in SC Bonus, Orthrus looks like he has a 93% MDT (Tested using Darkness SC; this is not a precise number, it's just to be clean). This, of course, assumes no resist or dy bonus negation (Wind, so if the damage was earth based, it's possible).

Darkness: 258
Benthic: 3830

SC Bonus: 1.08

Definitely not -93% MDT, Blizz5 landed for ~1880, no SS, just logs, and don't know where I was in terms of ugga/artemis/etc to work it out properly. Not sure what to say about the element the SC picked, but I'd guess darkness based on that, or just a random mega-resist.

[Kirschy]

Definitely not -93% MDT, Blizz5 landed for ~1880, no SS, just logs, and don't know where I was in terms of ugga/artemis/etc to work it out properly. Not sure what to say about the element the SC picked, but I'd guess darkness based on that, or just a random mega-resist.

Yea, I've gone BLM to Orthus a few times and it's not that horrible. Seemed a bit higher than 50% imo, but that's just eyeballing.

[Yugl]

Figures. I'll probably need someone with pops to let me use Breath spells on the mob (Using ES) to detect SDT.

[Yugl]

It seems that Magic Fruit (Assuming all cures except Plen's because that has an element in resources xml) will take Efflux. Oddly, Magic Fruit will not take CA.

[Byrthnoth]

Okay. I found a test in the Empyrean Armor thread, but it seemed like there was some disagreement over it.

[Masamune]

Ravager+2 Set Testing
Restraint and Ravager Mufflers test
Those tests r old, but i remember were when i discovered KParser problem with wrong DA parsing :s so take those results with a grain of salt...

[Churchill]

Not sure if anyones done testing on this yet or if I'm doing something wrong but:

Test: +3 Instrument; Victory March; Advancing; Advancing/Victory March

Using 90BRD@761 combined skill w/90Ghorn and a naked DRK/SAM aside from weapon(to use Hasso)

Results:

Dread Spikes w/out Victory March
180s

Dread Spikes w/Victory March
153s

Dread Spikes w/Advancing March
159s

Dread Spikes w/Victory,Advancing March
134s

[Mojo]

The first dread spikes test you ran (with just Hasso) is actually a really bad test because you're hitting the recast cap (255 seconds.) So if you're remarking about the non-linear results you obtained, that is why.

[Churchill]

Updated without Hasso

[Churchill]

So I did more tests and it may not be a surprise but skill no longer seems to effect anything as far as Advancing and Victory March are concerned

@721 combined skill
+0 March
AM=167s
VM=162s
AVM=150s

+1 March
AM=164s
VM=159s
AVM=145s

+2 March
AM=162s
VM=156s
AVM=139s

+3 March
AM=159s
VM=153s
AVM=134s

I tested +0, +1, +2 @652 combined skill (Unable to test this with +3 as Ghorn adds +40)

All results were the same as at 721 combined skill, and there was no change from 721-761 combined skill for +3 March



So I'm pretty sure I did the following wrong so if it is someone who knows what to do with the data please help me out lol.

When adding separate values for A+V March+2=234/1024 (162/180=0.9 + 156/180=0.86*)
When casted together A+V March+2=228/1024 (139/180=0.772*)
Victory March alone=134/1024 (156/180=0.86*)

When adding separate values for A+V March+3=267/1024 (159/180=0.883* + 153/180=0.85)
When casted together A+V March+3=256/1024 (134/180=0.74*)
Victory March alone=150/1024 (153/180=0.85)

[Kirschy]

So I did more tests and it may not be a surprise but skill no longer seems to effect anything as far as Advancing and Victory March are concerned

@721 combined skill
+0 March
AM=167s
VM=162s
AVM=150s

+1 March
AM=164s
VM=159s
AVM=145s

+2 March
AM=162s
VM=156s
AVM=139s

+3 March
AM=159s
VM=153s
AVM=134s

I tested +0, +1, +2 @652 combined skill (Unable to test this with +3 as Ghorn adds +40)

All results were the same as at 721 combined skill, and there was no change from 721-761 combined skill for +3 March



So I'm pretty sure I did the following wrong so if it is someone who knows what to do with the data please help me out lol.

When adding separate values for A+V March+2=234/1024 (162/180=0.9 + 156/180=0.86*)
When casted together A+V March+2=228/1024 (139/180=0.772*)
Victory March alone=134/1024 (156/180=0.86*)

When adding separate values for A+V March+3=267/1024 (159/180=0.883* + 153/180=0.85)
When casted together A+V March+3=256/1024 (134/180=0.74*)
Victory March alone=150/1024 (153/180=0.85)

The data is in a handful of places, but yea, Victory March caps at a combined total of 600 skill. Each +March add potency of 16/1024. Everything stacks as expected and Gjallar marches are super cool~