The Official Forums II: Out Here Grindin'

[grevenilvec75]

Hey Byrth, is phaffi trolling or does he seriously want more melee gear for mages?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...age-melee-gear

[Byrthnoth]

He's probably not trolling, and I agree that he has a point if they're going to keep giving mages melee relics. It isn't like he melees inappropriately in game. I don't think there's any real harm in giving a SCH/BLM/SMN Haste/Acc set.

He's probably just asking because he parsed like 30% of an xp alliance on his SMN with Emp Staff the other day. I'm pretty sure he realizes his Maschu+2 WAR would have done like 90% though, haha.

[Lyall]

All I'm saying is that if you didn't get an level 85 empyrean before december you shouldn't give lessons.

This coming from someone who got Vere before AF months after they were both out. Classic. How can anyone take this seriously?

[kamugi]

This coming from someone who got Vere before AF months after they were both out. Classic. How can anyone take this seriously?

I dont think people take him seriously anywhere, but maybe its just me =[

[Deader2818]

He didnt come back to the game till abyssea was level 90 so he really has no room to talk.

I seriously cant figure out if hes just THIS retarded or a masterful troll.

[Lyall]

I want to believe the latter but I'm not sure, that feels like giving too much credit.

[Aurara]

Kam called Hyrist out, we'll see if he accepts the challenge, willing to bet my 75 bst or drg or drk with crap scythe skill would beat him.

[GoggleHead]

I'm looking forward to hearing the excuses he comes up with to get out of that.

[Aurara]

"hurrrrrr it wouldnt be fair because i dont have 75 cap gear hurrrrr"

[Lyall]

Oh man, I hope this escalates. I'd love to see it.

[Aurara]

I can't wait for the excuses as to why he lost seeing as we'll have outside healing so he can focus on DD only

[GoggleHead]

Probably something about TP advantage due to him never taking a hit from the mob and the SAM getting more TP as a result of taking hate for the whole fight.

[Valisk]

Probably something about TP advantage due to him never taking a hit from the mob and the SAM getting more TP as a result of taking hate for the whole fight.

Which is a by-product of winning the parser. If he can do 80% dmg as he claims, then having the hate should benefit him. The moment he argues that he didn't have hate/couldn't keep hate/wasn't taking hits, then he already lost his argument.

[GoggleHead]

Actually I think his argument was more along the lines of he could put out 80 damage for every 100 damage the SAM put out, not that he would deal 80% of the overall damage to the SAM's 20%. But it doesn't really matter since we know he'll come up with a way to either weasel out or contest the results.

[kamugi]

Actually I think his argument was more along the lines of he could put out 80 damage for every 100 damage the SAM put out

Thats what I assumed he meant too.

[Lyall]

He agreed then said his gear was under par for the contest, and that he has no evis set-up, etc. Once he gets trounced he'll bring these up as to why he couldn't follow up.

[GoggleHead]

It sounds like there will also be tears about Zanshin.

I gotta say, it's pretty hilarious to see him strut about all cocky and then when someone calls him out he basically breaks down and says, "yeah I'm not gonna be able to back this up because I'm too gimp".

[Aurara]

So long as it's done in good faith and sportsmanship, I'm not opposed to doing another proof of concept. (Read, not the first time my gimp ass has gone up against Mamool Ja.)

Two major concerns I have, however:

The first one:

This is Starfox's TP gear at the time of the 08 parse.

Right now I'm running as follows:
Blau/Joy Tipha
Turban P.charm Brutal Suppa
Goliard, Dusk, Lava's, Kusha's
Amenant+1 Swift, Prince's, Dusk (nq)

I'm running a rather large chunk behind in STR (should also note his max STR merits to my 1). Though I'm ahead in haste, I'm apprehensive that my damage per hit is going to suffer for the difference. I remember he was pretty Adamant about having an appropriate str boost. I could probably swap in dusk legs to help slightly. However, I don't have an adequate enough single acc ring to bring my Raja's into the equation. (That or I'm underestimating my accuracy.)

This isn't getting into my woefully inadequate Evisceration gear. Put bluntly: I don't have one. It's just sort of patched together from gear I have, and I was going to improve upon with gear that has come out since my hiatus. But I'm not afraid of Jerry rigging it. (I'll post the full set once I've got the macro reprogrammed.) If nothing else, it'll show me where I need to emphasize changes.

This said, the second major concern is job adjustments since said date. Samurai had Zanshin update. Not so worried about DRG, they should be where they were before.

On the other hand, I will be using composure, which was not available at the time of Starfox's parse. So there's some give and take there as well.

I will likely not be doing 80% of any DD that's up to par on their gear. (We've never established what 'par' was, however.) But I'm not afraid of seeing how far my current work has gotten me. We can math the difference between myself and Starfox. (Sad, if he was playing, he'd be the one to challenge, he was on Odin after all. I don't think he still plays, however.)

So, while we're being up front, what gear sets on SAM and DRG am I going to be parsing against?

ROFL

Edit: this is my loldrg hes gonna face!

Spoiler: show

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[Churchill]

I can see Drakesbane shitting on him. I wish I could take my 75SAM there lol. SAM was almost too monotonous to merit with, WS every 10s for the same damage. WAR at least had some variation to it.

[Nightfyre]

doubleedit: nvm, you're 75 in the SS hurr. Use Forager's Mantle, you don't need the acc or the DEX from Cuch.