Neo-Dynamis Changes

[Eliane]

Went and messed around in Dynamis - Jeuno for a bit today. Killed a few NMs and got a pop item for Goblin Golem (Roving bijou). Dies very easily.

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This is one of the pop items for, well itself. There is another three key items together that the ??? lists you can use, those tome things, in this case, it needed 3.

I havent popped Dynamis Lord yet (from Shrouded Bijou), but i could wager a good guess, that it pops a weaker version of DL that drops the tomes, then when you get all 5 tomes it will pop the DL that drops shadow items?

Sounds ridiculous but from doing GG, it seems the case so far

[LidenbokValour]

Spoiler: show

Spoiler for huge

Popped with a Shrouded Bijou which drops commonly from tower NM demons (not the popped ones).

Summons Ying and Yang at some point, both very slow movement speed and hit very weak but have access to 2 hours and they seem to share hate with dynamis lord we couldn't pull them away because they just kept running back to DL. Later on in the fight he began summoning shadows exactly like the campaign ops fight, the shadows appear and mimic one of DL's TP moves and then immediatly disappear. He also casted random ailment-ga and tier 3 agas but I don't think thats anything new.

We wiped because it summoned shadows and all three used oblivion smash which did 1k per dynamis lord, our NIN managed to absorb with shadows though. 31% With 6 people unbuffed, unprepared and no proper group set up, just one healer. With a proper group set up it should be a walk in the park.

I can't wait to see what the other DL is like ^^

[gilgam]

There are new zone bosses,
something like "Arch Dynamis Lord" "Arch Angra Maiyu" etc.
need x5 tomes(1~5,6~10,11~15,16~20,21~25,26~30).
x4 from NM that spawn trading item,and x1 from zone boss.

[Damane]

does he resummon ying and yang after you kill them? (most likely)

[Ksandra]

dunno if it was mentioned, but minor note about pets they disappear when you kill their owners (drg pet/bst pet/ etc.).


With the time extensions did anyone try to kill the same one after it respawned to see if you can farm them for time/they are consistent on dropping them?

[Karbuncle]

dunno if it was mentioned, but minor note about pets they disappear when you kill their owners (drg pet/bst pet/ etc.).


With the time extensions did anyone try to kill the same one after it respawned to see if you can farm them for time/they are consistent on dropping them?

I did. You can only get a TE once per stone.

[Koyangi]

How do wins effect entry, is it same as before, cities > glacier > xarc?

[Ksandra]

I did. You can only get a TE once per stone.

That's semi gay considering how the respawns are. When we first went to xarc it was awesome because there was a bunch of people there, but towards the end we were the only ones left, it took me a bit to try to get to a stone to pull without aggro because there was only 3 of us.

Granted, that's only a minor complaint, just ya.

[Greatguardian]

Is it just me or do the Demons have unnaturally high acc? I tried them out on THF last night and they were tearing through my shadows like nothing. I wasn't using an EVA set, but with capped EVA skill I didn't think an EP mob would be that accurate.

If you go deep enough in, the Demons start to con VT at 90 with ridiculous Eva/Def values too. I had to berserk up to 800 attack to get them to con Neutral Def.

[Cantih]

ofc we're dumbasses and didnt bring a THF

You could have given me a call XD

I ended up going in for the hell of it solo. Got owned by a mage link.
But before that, managed to grab a WHM hat and, good news, Steal still works, got myself an O piece.

[Lyramion]

Buying Haste from Tomes lasts 10 minutes sharp.

[Malacite]

Is anyone really surprised that relics aren't going to fall from the sky after this update. I mean, really?

I see exactly what SE is doing here, they want the same amount of currency entering the servers as before but more widely distributed among players.

IIRC, their theory as presented in the Dyna update notes was that by altering the entry requirements but also lowering the drop rates there would be more currency than before over-all due to the increased frequency in which players do Dynamis.

Except that this is likely to result in just the opposite. WTF @ some of these changes, why did they have to go and Abyssify Dynamis?

[Yimoa]

the changes to dynamis make me want to come back badly, lol..

[Spira]

Spoiler: show

Spoiler for huge

Popped with a Shrouded Bijou which drops commonly from tower NM demons (not the popped ones).

Summons Ying and Yang at some point, both very slow movement speed and hit very weak but have access to 2 hours and they seem to share hate with dynamis lord we couldn't pull them away because they just kept running back to DL. Later on in the fight he began summoning shadows exactly like the campaign ops fight, the shadows appear and mimic one of DL's TP moves and then immediatly disappear. He also casted random ailment-ga and tier 3 agas but I don't think thats anything new.

We wiped because it summoned shadows and all three used oblivion smash which did 1k per dynamis lord, our NIN managed to absorb with shadows though. 31% With 6 people unbuffed, unprepared and no proper group set up, just one healer. With a proper group set up it should be a walk in the park.

I can't wait to see what the other DL is like ^^

based on your account, it sounds exactly like the original Dynamis Lord. I'm guessing the Arch version is the one that will be tweaked to challenge lv90+players...
multiple Oblivion Slash has almost always been the problem, but if its this easy to get him to pop I can see people just using a RDM/BLM for chainspell stun to kill him off fast and farm whatever he might now drop

[Alkimi]

IIRC, their theory as presented in the Dyna update notes was that by altering the entry requirements but also lowering the drop rates there would be more currency than before over-all due to the increased frequency in which players do Dynamis.

Except that this is likely to result in just the opposite. WTF @ some of these changes, why did they have to go and Abyssify Dynamis?

I dunno, hearing of a lot of 100 drops. We got one to drop from just a regular NM with no TH or procs just messing around in Jeuno exploring.

[Kogenta]

Ok we farmed a lot on two Xarca runs today, got all 4 time extensions, got shitloads of afs, 2 armelets, 2 blm, 1 rdm. Lotto-popped Sabnak (PLD) x2 and Duke Berith on the same camp, then a Count Raum popped on the hill behind the first castle pull (where the one of the old TE popped) while we were killing mobs there.
My impressions: mobs are grouped and every group is made of about 3-4 mobs type. IE: We camped at G-8 between 3 castles. There are a bunch of satellites stuff + red mage kindred + paladin kindred + dark knight kindred + some other mobs. We started killing the kindred in the area and got Sabnak to pop in place of the kindred paladin. Same stuff for the red mage kindred that popped Duke Berith. I think but not sure in that group the RDM is PH for duke berith that has high droprate on duelist chapeau. Sabnak went 1/2 on valor coat. One of our thf started walking around and pulled a Marquis Orias that was up, Sorcerer's petasos drop. All NMs dropped rar/ex Bijoue, used to pop DL, one dropped 1 Montiont.

Long story short: old NMs are now lottery pops on defined areas and from defined PH of the same job and has high droprate on stuff.

[shepardG]

Can anyone describe how Attestation NM's and Fragment NM's are handled now? do you have to collect Ra/ex Items to pop them or KI's?

[Alkimi]

For fragment NMs the pop item drops from satellites of that mob I believe.

Not sure on attestations.

[Warusha]

I need to get windurst win on a new account, has anyone figured out which pop I use for mega and where the ??? are?

[Karbuncle]

I dunno, hearing of a lot of 100 drops. We got one to drop from just a regular NM with no TH or procs just messing around in Jeuno exploring.

Hearing 100 pieces from a lot of NMs.

My guess, for Currency, the best bets/routes will be Farming NMs.

And, for Relic, Your best bet will likely be to farm Normal mobs.