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    Forgot about the killer effects bonus... then again doesn't apply to alot of mobs so a bit of a wash. Yeah then to keep max pet haste and cap yours without gimping weapon and still using af3+2 you'd have to use all the 1 haste items which is kinda ewww. Of course af2+2 helm gives more killer effects too

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    does anybody have links to the "ideal" war tp/ws sets? my shit is pretty out of date.

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    Can anyone please answer what is the cap in gear on Double attack?

    I am a Drk and I am working on the final form magian great Sword that is the 4 hit one, (Fulgrante)
    It is currently a OAT but will be a 2-3 and then a 3-4 ultimateley.

    My double attack gears are as follows
    Brutal Ear 5%
    Fazheulo Helm and Body 5%
    Pole Grip 2%
    Blithe Bantle 2%
    and the windbuffet belt 2% and 1% triple and quadruple attacks respectively
    I can still add the Calemac Trousers and Jingang Hose for more. At what point does it stop adding anything?
    At what point does Double Attack Cap out in gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgoth View Post
    Can anyone please answer what is the cap in gear on Double attack?

    I am a Drk and I am working on the final form magian great Sword that is the 4 hit one, (Fulgrante)
    It is currently a OAT but will be a 2-3 and then a 3-4 ultimateley.

    My double attack gears are as follows
    Brutal Ear 5%
    Fazheulo Helm and Body 5%
    Pole Grip 2%
    Blithe Bantle 2%
    and the windbuffet belt 2% and 1% triple and quadruple attacks respectively
    I can still add the Calemac Trousers and Jingang Hose for more. At what point does it stop adding anything?
    At what point does Double Attack Cap out in gear?

    Whatever amount you can get in gear, there is no known or reachable cap exlcuding using multiple DA atmas and being on war iirc.

    It's not always the best option in slot, especially Faz Helm/Body. Mekira+1/Ace's or Valk are probably better options. Blithe is junk, get Atheling at the minimum. Elebelt is best in option for waist.

    High damage OAT is better than 2-4 last I checked as well, this is all assuming Resolution.



    Quote Originally Posted by solanis View Post
    does anybody have links to the "ideal" war tp/ws sets? my shit is pretty out of date.
    http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Ragnarok/Ejiin/#item-sets is probably a good spot to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Forgot about the killer effects bonus... then again doesn't apply to alot of mobs so a bit of a wash. Yeah then to keep max pet haste and cap yours without gimping weapon and still using af3+2 you'd have to use all the 1 haste items which is kinda ewww. Of course af2+2 helm gives more killer effects too
    It does, but it also lacks 6% haste!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Gaxe: Ukon=conqueror> Bravura when you can use wing for AM3, Ukon > Bravura > conq when you can keep am1 with Ukon 100% of the time. Bravura > Ukon > conq when you cant.

    H2H: Veret>Spharai when you can keep AM3 with wings and/or impetus is up for whole fight. Spahrai > Veret when you cant keep am3 and fight is wit 60% impetus 40% non impetus

    Scyte: Libe > Rede > Apoc when you can keep am3 up with wings.

    etc. etc. it will varies greatly from event to event and mob to mob.
    Above not even taking into account things like uncapped accuracy etc.
    accuracy should be capped in most events
    dynamis, VW, abyssea, einherjar, and salvage are current "end game" events, i haven't tried neo-nyzul yet..

    I don't think you can assume to be able to keep up 100% ODD for empyrean weapons, 60% would seem more logical, so...
    So in short, Unless you can keep 100% odd on empy weapon, 99 Relic Weapons win over others in most cases~ right?

    how do other weapons compare in damage?
    Ragnarok vs Bravura ( i see a lot of people making Ragnarok )
    Amanomurakumo vs 100 TP bonus Magian GKT
    and what do i do with the 1500 plates i gathered? /cry ... lol make daurdabla for my relic horn pair O.o?

    Edit: also Burtgang vs Excalibur?

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    Harp absolutely if you will actually be playing BRD.

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    For Tachi Shoha and Kaiten, Avant Legs+1 or Ogier Breeches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawhat View Post
    accuracy should be capped in most events
    dynamis, VW, abyssea, einherjar, and salvage are current "end game" events, i haven't tried neo-nyzul yet..

    I don't think you can assume to be able to keep up 100% ODD for empyrean weapons, 60% would seem more logical, so...
    So in short, Unless you can keep 100% odd on empy weapon, 99 Relic Weapons win over others in most cases~ right?

    how do other weapons compare in damage?
    Ragnarok vs Bravura ( i see a lot of people making Ragnarok )
    Amanomurakumo vs 100 TP bonus Magian GKT
    and what do i do with the 1500 plates i gathered? /cry ... lol make daurdabla for my relic horn pair O.o?

    Edit: also Burtgang vs Excalibur?
    The point is you can keep am3 up at VW for whole fight. You pop wing and do 300TP ws and use it again when it wears.
    Its really not that easy. Relics will usually win with empy and mythic for events with breaks between mobs like neo-nyzul. Its not always true tho because with strategy involving embrava you have TP ready to turn on aftermath at first mob after the break so you can keep aftermath pretty much all the time and sometimes it will be even AM3 when you have for example lamp floor you should have 300TP gathered from regain before you hit next floor.

    Its really more complicated then you think and answer will depend o many things like event/party setup/strategy etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugnax179 View Post
    For Tachi Shoha and Kaiten, Avant Legs+1 or Ogier Breeches
    shoha avant+1
    kaiten ogier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawhat View Post
    accuracy should be capped in most events
    dynamis, VW, abyssea, einherjar, and salvage are current "end game" events, i haven't tried neo-nyzul yet..

    ACC isn't capped for 95% of the players on Tier6 VW. Parse an alliance you can get some scary ACC results from people with relics/95+emps etc.

    Amano95+ > TP bonus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    ACC isn't capped for 95% of the players on Tier6 VW. Parse an alliance you can get some scary ACC results from people with relics/95+emps etc.

    Amano95+ > TP bonus
    Thats not always true at VW but everywhere else its pretty solid advantage for Amano.

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    I was fairly sure you'd need either a low xhit or never get dusty/regain for TP bonus to be beating Amano, did something change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan View Post
    I was fairly sure you'd need either a low xhit or never get dusty/regain for TP bonus to be beating Amano, did something change?
    nope its still the same.

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    best scythe for DRK beside Apoc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Thats not always true at VW but everywhere else its pretty solid advantage for Amano.


    Not always true but true most of the time. TPbonus GKTs biggest advantage is at 100tp anything over that favors Amano/Masa, at 200tp their WS averages are about the same. (sekka,haga etc) With TP overflow in VW+Moonshade the WS advantage of TPbonus gets diluted and the TP phase of Amano/Masa (20/80 split) more then makes up the difference. There are buff senarios however that strongly favor TPbonus some of which will disappear after the saveTP nerf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnat View Post
    best scythe for DRK beside Apoc?
    Liberator.

    Spoiler: show
    But I'm guessing you wanted more reasonable options, so Magian OAT.

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    For BB monk; 5/5 af3+2 or 3/5 + zelus tiara and relic +2 gloves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguile View Post
    For BB monk; 5/5 af3+2 or 3/5 + zelus tiara and relic +2 gloves?
    Pretty sure 4/5 +2 with relic +2 gloves beats the Zelus setup.

    There is also ganesha's mask and 4/5+2 if you want.

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    Dont have ganesha's yet, but Ill go with that setup. Thanks

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