Grounds of Valor Adjustments (08/12/2011)

[Septimus]

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[dev1022] Grounds of Valor Adjustments

Grounds of Valor will receive a variety of additions and refinements in the next version update.

• The following areas will be added:
  The Boyahda Tree / Korroloka Tunnel / Kuftal Tunnel / Ve’Lugannon Palace / The Shrine of Ru’Avitau / Ifrit’s Cauldron / Gustav Tunnel / Labyrinth of Onzozo
  *Treasure caskets will also appear in these areas.
• Level and placement of certain monsters in these areas will be adjusted.
• Additional Grounds Tomes will be placed in the following areas:
  Ranguemont Pass / Bostaunieux Oubliette / Toraimarai Canal / King Ranperre's Tomb

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If they weren't before, SMN burns are now dead.

[Cairthenn]

They weren't, still the best way to thirty. And that was my first thought upon reading it..but depending on how exactly they adjust everything, they may not be to be honest. Chances are they won't change the Ninja job quest area or the main walk way, which are the most important pulls. And I'm betting they're more than likely to stick to the back areas. So, unless people actually find the GOV appealing enough to block people out of a SMN burn (or mobs are changes in a weird way compared to previous zone changes), it'll actually help due to the ability to freeze AF timer in a chest.

[Kaisha]

Just need a summonable book item akin to Magian specs so I don't have to spend a minute running back/forth between the book every 5-9 kills. The high-lvl camps in particular are always a mile away from a book when I did some exploring awhile ago.


Main use I've gotten out of GoV is cleaning up a couple of subs given the wide lvl-spread you can do them at, not hard to get into a group at all. Just a bit sad though that non-leech Abyssea XP went from many zones in the past, down to just three.
(Gusgen bookburn from 15-36, Garlaige 36-65, Bostaunieux 65-75)

Bostaunieux is great for some casual XPing of your 2box also if you got a lvl90 DD at hand on your main.


I'm actually a bit curious about their zone spread amongst their server clusters nowadays with most zones basically sitting there doing absolutely nothing.

[Gokulo]

Good, the more GoV's the better. Wonder what new rewards will these hold (though I can't say I'm looking forward to farming Sky or Ifrit's )

Just need a summonable book item akin to Magian specs so I don't have to spend a minute running back/forth between the book every 5-9 kills. The high-lvl camps in particular are always a mile away from a book when I did some exploring awhile ago.

Actually, I think they mentioned they will add the ability to repeat the page as soon as you finish it.

[Septimus]

They weren't, still the best way to thirty. And that was my first thought upon reading it..but depending on how exactly they adjust everything, they may not be to be honest. Chances are they won't change the Ninja job quest area or the main walk way, which are the most important pulls. And I'm betting they're more than likely to stick to the back areas. So, unless people actually find the GOV appealing enough to block people out of a SMN burn (or mobs are changes in a weird way compared to previous zone changes), it'll actually help due to the ability to freeze AF timer in a chest.

They are probably going to change the respawn to 5 minutes in those zones and reduce the number of low-level mobs to add in more high level mobs. Also, I remember when they added in boxes to outdoor zones it wrecked SMN burns by disrupting the XP whenever chests dropped or something like that.

Just need a summonable book item akin to Magian specs so I don't have to spend a minute running back/forth between the book every 5-9 kills. The high-lvl camps in particular are always a mile away from a book when I did some exploring awhile ago.


Main use I've gotten out of GoV is cleaning up a couple of subs given the wide lvl-spread you can do them at, not hard to get into a group at all. Just a bit sad though that non-leech Abyssea XP went from many zones in the past, down to just three.
(Gusgen bookburn from 15-36, Garlaige 36-65, Bostaunieux 65-75)

Bostaunieux is great for some casual XPing of your 2box also if you got a lvl90 DD at hand on your main.


I'm actually a bit curious about their zone spread amongst their server clusters nowadays with most zones basically sitting there doing absolutely nothing.

A summonable book would be the best thing ever.

Has anyone written up a good guide to where to XP at what levels for GoV?

[Lordender]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Grounds_Tome thats what I used. Some of those GoV in the later levels aren't really worth it(too much aggro dodging or bad book placement) and its pretty hard to find people to speed it up who will want to do it over being a key bitch in abyssea. I found campaign to a whole lot faster if your solo in the 60's.

[Eldelphia]

Gwynplaine has some nice maps on her Parchment paper blog of where the mobs are currently - I find that useful.

[Deathbringer]

Inb4 some absurd gear drops from a gold chest in sky.

[Trix]

So to my understanding, GoV is just a higher level FoV with some rewards?

[lamp]

Not higher level, just better exp rewards and buffs for less mobs in general.
Only in dungeons too.

[Septimus]

So to my understanding, GoV is just a higher level FoV with some rewards?

Each time you complete a Grounds of Valor book, you get a fairly decent chance of getting a buff. Some of the buffs include: "Increased combat and magic skill gain", "Treasure Hunter bonus", "Increased HP and MP", and "Increased weapon skill damage". These can stack and will stay with you until you leave the zone, so as you can imagine, this can be very useful.

Also, the amount of XP you receive for completing a book increases as you repeat the same book. This can lead to a very powerful cumulative effect if you can clear books fast enough.

[arus2001]

Ugh, not looking forward to them slipping some nice item into brown chests just so I could literally play for a day and not ever see it.

Probably the best thing GoV has done for me has made farming coffer keys less of a hassle for the remaining jobs I took to 90.

[Sagacious Sundi]

I wonder why beastman strongholds keep getting excluded from GoV and the general monster level/placement adjustments. Just saving them for 99? Or do they have a separate event planned for them? (Conquest revamp? A third "<Noun>s of Valor" system?)

[Septimus]

I wonder why beastman strongholds keep getting excluded from GoV and the general monster level/placement adjustments. Just saving them for 99? Or do they have a separate event planned for them? (Conquest revamp? A third "<Noun>s of Valor" system?)

Looking from it from an in-game perspective: if the beastmen had level 90-100+ members floating around somewhere, why wouldn't they all just gang up and wipe out the cities?

I think that it is fine that the beastmen aren't getting any stronger, we have moved past them being the main menace to Vana'diel. Now the primary menace is inter-dimensional. (Voidwalkers, Abyssea, Walk of Echoes, and Voidwatch.)

[Khajit]

Shantotto can solo all the Yags. Lastok and Sandy would be screwed.

[Makwa]

Would be kinda neat to add something to them though, maybe a conquest-related thing like stated a couple posts above.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Looking from it from an in-game perspective: if the beastmen had level 90-100+ members floating around somewhere, why wouldn't they all just gang up and wipe out the cities?

I mostly just feel bad for the poor guys since they're hyped up so much to be the main threat, but now stuff in Zeruhn Mines can kick their asses.

Oh and maybe it'd be an excuse to open up the unavailable part of Halvung/Zhayolm which pisses me off.

[Cail]

Maybe that part'll open up in the next ibg update with the ToAU adjustments

[Kaisha]

Oh and maybe it'd be an excuse to open up the unavailable part of Halvung/Zhayolm which pisses me off.

Got a link showing what parts are inaccessible? Mainly curious as I enjoy finding 'dead ends' in zones that really are just blocked off because the devs dunno wtf to do with that space.

Such as the fucking large open area to the far north in Pashhow[S].



Regarding GoV since they're affecting all zones that involve NPC Escort quests, has anyone even done those since? I'm mainly curious if they reworked their route, or if SE really expects people that are doing the quest to somehow deal with all the lvl80+ mobs along their old paths. I know SE repositioned some NMs, but not heard much word on quests being adjusted other than discovering the WHM AF3 quest ??? in Fei'Yin got moved to the open area with the fountain.

Spoiler: show

Of course it would have been hilarious to have an AF3 NM pop in the middle of lvl95+ ghosts....

[Gokulo]

There's a chance they will put mobs with no aggro in those places (small, but yeah...)