Yeah, I'm going to have to sit with Bigsyke and Draylo on this one. 78 with gear and 3 Atma is joke-y damage, but if you're in a pickup Abyssea alliance it may be less of a joke than the other "DDs."
This all started though because they posted a lv78 mnk in aurore and some random AH junk, who probably abyssea mooched from 30 onwards to begin with...but that once again doesnt refute my claim, saying that their lv78 in top tier gear and atmas could outparse a lv90 with utter garbage and 0 atmas (and I still doubt they'd demolish them like they're claiming) is like gloating about beating a blind man at [sport/game/whatever].
I was replying to the fact that i said at 78 bst i was out-DDing some 90s in PuG, and you sayign the 90s should be posted. So i was referring to that
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Lucky for you it was on the old boards before the massive switch. inb4 it never happened buttttttt
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People don't forget!
But really, why is this argument still going lol.
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With the right atmas, food, gear, temp items, JAs, and high/capped skill; a level 75 can easy out damage a level 90 with none or terrible atmas, not using food, with terrible gear, not using temp items, half-assedly or not using JAs, and underleveled skill.
Use RR, GH, Horned beast (for acc); squid sushi for one handed DDs, pizza for two handed DDs; use the most optimal sub (sam for two handers, war for one handers); keep capped skill and preferrably merited; gear like you're at level 75, not 90; use the god damn stalwarts tonic and champions tonic because they're free; and keep your JAs up as well as hold them on a chest or npc or something when there isn't another mob at camp. If you can do that, out damaging a sub-par 90 is <Easy Prey>.
note: This post was exponentially longer, I decided to filter out all of the math because nobody would read it.
Its not that serious, Stop acting like a hot head.
That aside, I was under the impression it was a comparison between a level 78 player and a half-competent level 90 player (I.E at least 1 atma, and some half decent gear). I was saying That I Could see it happening if the 90DD was really awful. But my impression was the 90DD wasn't going to be Retard level, simply mediocre at best for 90. My disbelief was in a 78 out-DDing a half-compitent 90, not in my Disbelief a 78 could out DD a fuck-awful powered-to-90 No skill no atma gimp fk.
Sorry if i was unclear. I was simply reading the discussion between Ninja and you and my impression was the 90 was not retard-tier.
Him being retard tier makes me see how it could happen.
A 78WAR with Apoc/RR/SS-GH could more than likely outdamage most other players in pickup XP parties. If you've got a 75WAR lying around and atmas, go see for yourself. Between BLM that can't sleep anything or nuke anything, every DD there wearing full perle or aurore and more than likely skilling up a shit weapon this is easily possible. Being level 90 doesnt give you a 60%crit rate or make you super awesome in abyssea unless you have atmas, and most people don't.
I'd even wager that WAR could outdamage everyone besides another WAR running the same setup and Emp. users. Seriously, think about what it was like xp'ing with your crap jobs when Visions came out.
Well, Cair does have a point.
This thread sucks.
You've made an excellent contribution yourself. Maybe you should make another enthralling post.
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