Marcato Testing

[Kirschy]

Went out and did some basic Marcato Testing, nothing too interesting.

tl;dr:

• Marcato is a SV-type enhancement with +50% boost instead of SV's +100%.
• Marcato's duration+ stacks /w Troub.
• When using SV + Marcato, SV cancels out Marcato or the modifier is capped at 100%.
• Marcato doesn't work on Lullaby or Elegy, but it does work on Requiem.

Naked BRD using Minne: (The following values are for defense)
164: Base
194: No Instrument
209: No Instrument + Marcato

+30 def normal, +45 /w Marcato. The +50% from the testing on Test Server holds~

Naked BRD using Minuet /w 5 Minuet Merits: (The following values are for attack)
206: Base
282: Gjallar(+3)
320: Gjallar(+3) + Marcato

+76 attack normal, +114 /w Marcato. The +50% still holds even with +instrument and Minuet Merits.

It's well known that certain songs don't gain potency from + Instruments or SV. Choco Mazurka comes to mind. The following are duration in minutes for Mazurka:

2 Min: Naked
3 Min: Naked /w Marcato
3 Min: Gjallar(+3) + Neck + AF3 Body ( +30% + 10% + 10% = 50% duration)
4 Min 30 sec: Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body + Marcato
6 Min: Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body + Troub ( +100% Duration)
9 Min: Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body + Troub + Marcato ( + 150% duration)
12 Min: Gjallar + Beck + AF3 Body + Troub + SV ( +200% duration)
12 Min: Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body + Troub + Marcato + SV ( +200% duration)

The tests above show that Marcato stacks /w +Insturment items, +duration items, and Troub. It appears to be capped, or Marcato is cancelled out by SV. I'm not sure there's a way to figure out which.

So does SV + Marcato work on potency buffs?

Minuet /w Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body:
206: Base
286: Minuet V
366: SV
366: SV + Marcato

This shows potency is being capped at +100%. SV + Marcato don't stack.

How about Debuffs?

Lullaby II:
1:15: Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body (+30%)
1:15: Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body + Marcato (+30%)
2:30: Gjallar + Neck + AF3 Body + Troub + Marcato (+100%)
[EDIT: As Detlef pointed out, the base duration on Lullaby II is 60s. Neck/Body were not adding to potency so I was getting +30% and probably 1:18/2:36 on the durations.]

Marcato has no effect. Troub works just fine.

Elegy:
6.06s: Base
9.06s: Elegy
9.05s: Elegy /w Marcato

Sample size was 5hits using frame counting /w fraps. Clearly Marcato has no effect.

Requiem:
100% -> 69% -> 9% -> Dead: Req VII
100% -> 54% -> 9% -> Dead: Req VII /w Marcato

Marcato affects Requiem for sure.

As always, sorry for the poor formatting.

[Scrooge]

Thanks for the testing.

Unfortunate it's 50% and not 100%. Was really hoping every 10 min, we'd be able to cap magic Haste for an entire Troubadour duration with just one song.

Regarding Mercato not affecting Elegy: It might not be that it doesn't affect Elegy. Elegy effect players can cast on monsters has always been capped at 50%. So your test may just be demonstrating that cap that has always existed.

That is to say:
Carnage Elegy will give the same slow whether you Soul Voice or not.
Battlefield Elegy will give a stronger slow when it's SV'ed than when it's not.
SV Battlefield Elegy = Carnage Elegy = SV Carnage Elegy in terms of pure slow potency.

I'd wager if you tested Battlefield Elegy vs Mercato Battlefield Elegy, you'd see a difference.

[detlef]

Lullaby II has a base duration of 60 seconds so Ghorn's +3 makes the duration 1:18. Also, neck and +2 body don't affect debuff duration. You had me going there thinking there was a ninja patch.

Aside from that, I pretty much haven't gotten used to the fact that the JA even exists.

[Kirschy]

I'd wager if you tested Battlefield Elegy vs Mercato Battlefield Elegy, you'd see a difference.

I was thinking the same thing, but I was way too lazy to test at that point. I was hoping it would help Elegy go over the cap cause it was a separate modifier, but as you said, like SV, the potency on Elegy is capped.

Lullaby II has a base duration of 60 seconds so Ghorn's +3 makes the duration 1:18. Also, neck and +2 body don't affect debuff duration. You had me going there thinking there was a ninja patch.

Wow I'm dumb. I didn't even know the neck/body didn't help Lullaby duration =/. That sucks. I knew the base was 60s, but I don't know why I was thinking I got a 50% duration boost. I'll fix that up, thanks for pointing it out.

[Diomer]

My Gjall BRD friend has been wondering whether Marcato makes any difference on Marches (I guess not under SV though at least which is good to know), any possible test for that coming soon? I guess it probably does effect it but it'd be nice to confirm. Thanks for the info as usual.