Ultra Street Fighter IV: AVOID PS4 RELEASE FOR NOW

[fantasticdan]

Why would dimps be involved in the balancing process?

It's less about the balance, and more about the actual coding. Ultra (the only version of SF4 capcom actually developed) is full of spaghetti code bullshit (see the bugged online for pc/ps3 version, massive amounts of unlisted/unintended character changes, various glitches) and was a lazy hackjob in general. Elenas hitboxes are probably the most glaring example, which unlike the other sfxt characters, capcom didn't bother to finish adjusting after the copy/paste.

[Callisto]

They didn't polish several of Decapre's either, from what I understand there's a lot of 'CammySFxTK' file names in the Decapre boxes, lol

[octopus]

[GoggleHead]

So when are they fixing the game again?

[Callisto]

If anyone is familiar with Excel/okay at math, and might be interested in doing the same thing for their own local scene I got bored and decided to make an Elo-style ranking system for our local Chicago USF4 players based on our ranbat results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

[Callisto]

[Callisto]

[Damane]

So when are they fixing the game again?

what exactly needs fixing besides the unintended nerfs decapre and rolento got?

[Chun Liroy]

what exactly needs fixing besides the unintended nerfs decapre and rolento got?

uhhhh hitboxes.

Also they should fix that the game sucks.

[Damane]

uhhhh hitboxes.

Also they should fix that the game sucks.

how about you adjust yourself to them? unique hitboxes arent something new

[Callisto]

There's unique hitboxes, and then there's some of the things that go on in this game, lol. I've seen several pass-through type of things, characters falling out of ultras that really shouldn't be, etc. I think the game is playable and the balance is decent, but it is definitely sloppy as fuck.

I'm not even sure if I mind it at this point, the bad coding makes for random shit happening and I play a character who is generally at an advantage if things come down to a scramble so w/e I guess

[Don Katsu]

how about you adjust yourself to them? unique hitboxes arent something new

Going through a character or having a MID attack whiff on a crouching character is not unique. Its buggy. You can't tell someone to adjust to something that is clearly not intentional especially when Capcom themselves acknowledged it and plans to fix it.

The problem is SFxT has smaller hitboxes than SF4 and there was no adjustment on Capcoms part to fix this after they copy pasted the data. The result is shit like moves going though characters and Elena having the only hard knockdown in the game you can't delay your wake up on.

There is alot of shit that's broken like Vanilla Seth has 800 health/ 900 stun. Ken gets more meter when you block his SRK than when it hits. Dan's j.MP crosses up Elena but every other airborne move misses.

There is a thread on Shoryuken with a list if bugs in the game I believe it was submitted to Capcom with over 700 bugs on it? That's ridiculous.

[Callisto]

to be fair some of what they counted as bugs were silly, but I think they trimmed some of the stuff that was just people bitching about characters/moves they didn't like

[Damane]

Going through a character or having a MID attack whiff on a crouching character is not unique. Its buggy. You can't tell someone to adjust to something that is clearly not intentional especially when Capcom themselves acknowledged it and plans to fix it.

The problem is SFxT has smaller hitboxes than SF4 and there was no adjustment on Capcoms part to fix this after they copy pasted the data. The result is shit like moves going though characters and Elena having the only hard knockdown in the game you can't delay your wake up on.

There is alot of shit that broken like Vanilla Seth has 800 health/ 900 stun. Ken gets more meter when you block his SRK than when it hits. Dan's j.MP crosses up Elena but every other airborne move misses.

There is a thread on Shoryuken with a list if bugs in the game I believe it was submitted to Capcom with over 700 bugs on it? That's ridiculous.

bugs i agree, but strange hitboxes? I just get the feeling that we/capcom are patching the game to death with constant changes.

[Krandor]

Constant changes? This isn't a monthly balance patch like the NRS games, it's legit issues and bugs.

Elena's hitboxes are fucking broken. There is no reason for moves that hit mid to whiff a crouching character, period.

[Callisto]

I think my favorite was that Poison's force stand moves whiff on several crouching characters after a jumpin

[Chun Liroy]

I think my favorite was that Poison's force stand moves whiff on several crouching characters after a jumpin

It's not even several, it's most. I think it is cl. MP or cl. HP forces stand and does not combo post jump in... or off anything, and for certain things for her to combo to work, they have to be standing... If I remember correctly. I remember trying some stuff but it didn't work on crouchers, and didn't work on jump ins into forced stands.

Also, this makes me want to play SF4 again, even if 80% of this shit is unviable.

[GoggleHead]

Also broken: the netcode on PC. It's been a veritable shit festival and I for one am tired of the celebration.

[Ragnus]

Question for the PC players here. Not sure if I asked this before, but are any of you having odd input problems? I can't really put my finger on it, but it feels like something is just... off compared to the Xbox version. Vsync is off on my machine which I heard can be a problem.

[Ragnus]

Pretty sure I found my issue. Killed the anti aliasing and it feels a bit better.