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    Free Curaga spells.

    BIG EDIT:

    You can't gain MP, it will just cut the cost down to zero.
    Edit 2:

    Spells you use Accession are not affected by the light arts cost reduction.


    This is just a little numbergame in my head I came up with when we did some Draguas with a PT full of melees and a WHM spamming Curagas.

    Orsn. Pantaln. +2 Rare Ex
    [Legs] All Races
    DEF:41 MND+7 Healing magic casting time -12% Converts 5% of "Cure" amount to MP "Divine Benison"+1 Set: Augments elemental resistance spells
    LV 83 WHM

    With enough HP missing on your PT members, these allow you to make your Curagas free. The effect can be enhanced with abilities like Divine Seal, Light Arts and Strategems, as well as of course maxing your cure potency.


    The example value will be my Taru 99WHM/SCH with below average MND of 89+25, VIT 80, Cure Potency +50% and also low Healing Skill of 376.




    Curaga:

    MP cost: 60 / Arts 54
    HP healing needed for 0MP cost: 1200 / 1080
    Average HP healing per PT member: 200 / 180
    Example Value: 144 HP

    Pretty unreasonable without abilities.


    Curaga II:

    MP cost: 120 / Arts 108
    HP healing needed for 0MP cost: 2400 / 2160
    Average HP healing per PT member: 400 / 360
    Example Value: 301 HP

    Closer but no dice.


    Curaga III:

    MP cost: 180 / Arts 162
    HP healing needed for 0MP cost: 3600 / 3240
    Average HP healing per PT member: 600 / 540
    Example Value: 606 HP

    Here is the point of breaking even. But also the point where everyone has to have a big junk of HP missing.


    Curaga IV:

    MP cost: 260 / Arts 234
    HP healing needed for 0MP cost: 5200 / 4680
    Average HP healing per PT member: 867 / 780
    Example Value: 1068 HP

    Better have Galka DDs.


    Curaga V:

    MP cost: 380 / Arts 342
    HP healing needed for 0MP cost: 7600 / 6840
    Average HP healing per PT member: 1267 / 1140
    Example Value: 1339 HP

    Abyssea or Galka MNKs



    As you can see it's possible from Curaga III on to nullify MP usage without any ability use. This would need everyone having lots of spread even damage from AoEs tho. I still like the number play, to see how cost efficient raw Curagas can get, even if you don't break exactly even.



    Accession Cure IV:

    MP cost: 88
    HP healing needed for 0MP cost: 1760
    Average HP healing per PT member: 293
    Example Value: 610 HP (440 Healing Skill)


    Accessioned Spells are VERY efficient. (If they works as expected with the WHM AF3+2 legs)





    Feel free to add, correct or bash me on my little number game. I for one now have a little better understanding of my MP management on AoE heavy mobs.

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    I'm pretty sure that while it says "Converts to MP" what it actually is was tested to be just a cost reduction, and you can never end up gaining MP from casting a cure.

    Would be dead easy to check with Manawell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foldypaws View Post
    I'm pretty sure that while it says "Convert's to MP" what it actually is was tested tp be just a cost reduction, and you can never end up gaining MP from casting a cure.

    Would be dead easy to check with Manawell.

    Everyone asleep right now, also going to sleep. Maybe someone can retest or I will tomorrow. Then could still break even on costs tho, right?

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    You can't gain MP, it will just cut the cost down to zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    You can't gain MP, it will just cut the cost down to zero.
    Thanks alot ! Edited original post towards 0 MP costs.

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    Too bad you'd be capped hate after 2-3 of these free curagas lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Too bad you'd be capped hate after 2-3 of these free curagas lol
    Perfect! Time to misery your Curas

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Too bad you'd be capped hate after 2-3 of these free curagas lol
    Actually, something I've been mildly curious about: Does Curaga IV share the same low-hate properties as Cure V? It seems like I can Curaga IV all day on whm and not pull hate, but I tend to draw the mob's attention when I use Curaga III. It's one of the reasons I like staying in the middle of AOE range on whm -- it's easier to make Curaga IV a 0-cost spell since I can add in the damage I cure on myself to the MP reduction, while at the same time the mob never even bats an eye at me.

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    I have no idea really. Kanican doesn't test no more

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    Spells you use Accession are not affected by the light arts cost reduction. However, Penury would drastically lower the point of the Curaga line of spells.

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    I have attempted to steal T3 VNMs from horrible jps while bored using curaga4 spam on 4 people and never managed to cap hate. I strongly suspect that it works similarly to cure V with a fixed enmity rate.