Random Fail XIII: I FOR FUCKING LAST TIME TALLING YOU

[Firedemon]

The same thing happened during the first or second bonanza and the dude took the AV gkt instead of an insane amount of gil.

That was Macyy. I was under the impression he had a crazy amount of gil in the first place. He was a longtime Yoichi RNG with a boatload of HQ gear when it was uncommon to have. That's why I think he took the GK anyway.

[GeneyusTitan]

@Mahora - NIN BRD (can be 2boxed) THF SCH other two characters afk. Brd only needs to finale spikes, I don't bother with songs because he dispels them so quick and I'm playing all of these characters. If it was an actual play I guess I would do minuets then. The sch's only job is to put up embrava at the start then reshell and take off curse. The thf only has to tag it with TH but to make it easier on myself I go thf/rdm and cast diaga when adds pop. Odin seems to have an incredibly high rate of treasure hunter proccing early in the fight, so my first few SA/TAs level it up, and I leave the thf at max casting range to just grab the adds.

Mindless bitching is a pathetic excuse for bringing 4 groups worth of Odins to a single run, but that's why my mules have e bodies/valhalla gear and these people need to cry about it. Shit, if they would have asked I have been giving away the shit while I farmed amps/p body.

The crying over the other group will never stop because you don't care enough to make it stop, but that problem is yours not mine. All in all the airing of LS drama was brought about by the discussion between Anduril members in this thread, it was a funny screenshot to some people. Laugh and let it go.

[Mahoro]

I would have til it got brought up....again.

I already understand the lowman method, but "4 groups worth of Odins" is a misnomer when your stated method would require 4 THF's, 4 NIN's, 4 SCH's and 4 BRD's, an obviously idealized scenario for any large LS. So let's not pretend I brought 4 groups that night, or would want people to start job-switching to simulate it late at night after an ADL event when I have a bunch of SMNs, CORs, and DDs. Regardless, as I stated above, splitting runs only makes things more efficient in the ~5% of the time dual E. Bodies or P. Bodies drop, otherwise everyone still ends up in Haz the same number of times. 2x trash is still trash. Your point about mules having Ebodies is well-taken but obvious innuendo, and inapplicable since you farm it for amps.

Finally, the "crying over the other group" was discussed with you and resolved TWICE over now, so continually dredging it up here is doing neither of us any favors. I've already stated that none of the people in that screenshot even cared about Odin drops, nor did they speak up out of a desperate need to get into the zone to get a drop. So sure, let's laugh and let it go. Again.

[GeneyusTitan]

You didn't argue with me over anything as I was out of town. There is a porter moogle in Nashmau to switch jobs and so it would seem instead that the problem is shitty members as Rearden had pointed out. You'd be upping your chance of getting both members E body, 1 body abjuration is guaranteed. Some runs I don't get two bodies, so due to my advanced knowledge of statistics (this is sarcasm for the dense), I believe there to actually be better odds of ending up with you want by splitting up into groups. Then you wouldn't need to spend that extra 10 minutes doing events at the end of the night where people are incapable of doing -anything that makes any fucking sense at all-.

The crying over the group is never going to be resolved because as you've stated you'd rather not deal with it as a leader and instead would keep shitty people who piss and moan about drops. Believe it.

[Strange]

Jesus just let it go. You posted a pic thinking to get a laugh and it backfired and showed what a petty person you are. I know that you're probably trying to justify the jerkness of the situation from your perspective, but I really don't see how you can do anything at this point other than dig yourself in deeper.

[GeneyusTitan]

I laughed, and so did the people who I intended to laugh. I also don't feel a need to justify anything to you, Mahora, Anduril, or honestly anyone else. I guess I just don't know what it's like to bring 24 people to Odin because I'm not a fucking moron. You do realize that the convo between Mahora and Deathbeckons is what sparked the debate ya? You guys may be used to doing things in ass-backwards ways but honestly there's been some good advice in the past two pages, if you took the sand out of your vagina you guys wouldn't need to piss and moan about the couple minutes you spend waiting in Hazhalm.

[Mahoro]

The advice to make ourselves 5% more efficient? It has been rehashed and restated in this thread to the point of idiocy, and if you must know we split runs yesterday since we had more event time and got the expected 95% result. The "efficiency advice" and the screenshot you posted have absolutely nothing to do with each other. In fact, the comments in that SS would likely have occurred if I had brought 6 people or 20 people. Have an end to it, please.

On a side note, I think it's time to retire the phrase "sandy vagina", because it is the worst kind of ad hominem argument technique: an unoriginal one.

[Diomer]

The advice to make ourselves 5% more efficient? It has been rehashed and restated in this thread to the point of idiocy, and if you must know we split runs yesterday since we had more event time and got the expected 95% result. The "efficiency advice" and the screenshot you posted have absolutely nothing to do with each other. In fact, the comments in that SS would likely have occurred if I had brought 6 people or 20 people. Have an end to it, please.

On a side note, I think it's time to retire the phrase "sandy vagina", because it is the worst kind of ad hominem argument technique: an unoriginal one.

You're pulling numbers out of your ass; 5% more efficient when you could've made at least 3 groups instead of 1? 4 more slots to get an E. Body or P. Body instead of just 2 slots is nowhere near 5% more efficiency, but good luck with that.

[Mahoro]

No, that's the guesstimated odds of Ebodies/Pbodies both dropping in split runs in the same night, not the percentage of each run on its own. If the abjuration drops in one run but not the other, it's a wash because the overall result is the group returns the next week for the other guy.

[GeneyusTitan]

I actually typed a long response but I'm now bored of this and you wouldn't understand the point anyways. The easiest way to have had this die would have been to stop responding about it, like I'll do now!

[Mahoro]

Ok, no prob. I will also try to be courteous in the event we do split runs late night on Tuesdays and try not to run afoul of your amp farming. I don't like staying up late waiting on people in a non-instanced event and I imagine you don't either.

[Diomer]

No, that's the guesstimated odds of Ebodies/Pbodies both dropping in split runs in the same night, not the percentage of each run on its own. If the abjuration drops in one run but not the other, it's a wash because the overall result is the group returns the next week for the other guy.

I'm trying to think how to phrase this so you'd understand. If Run A with all 20 isn't dropping an E. Body or P. Body, why the fuck is it a wash if you split and don't get one on Run A, but get one on Run B or C? Here's the intelligent solution: Put one person who wants E/P in each group and then if any group gets one, you've taken the amount of either you need down by 1. Once you're down to ONLY 2 people (and I'm talking only, get those mules those E/P Bodies too if they want them) needing them, split only into 2 groups if you feel you must. Then MAYBE when you get down to 1 person needing or wanting them (which I doubt you're at already), consider doing 1 run if you really feel the need to do that. Actually better yet, just spam v2 until it drops it for that one person.

[Mahoro]

PM'd you why so we don't derail the thread further, basically talking about 3/1 needed.

[SargentRemora]

More PJ drama

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[bechyni]

Maybe if she got some dick she wouldn't be such a snobby cunt

[Teryu]

I can't help but notice that every chick in that screenshot was retarded.

[NynJa]

Someone shouted in PJ yesterday asking where Rajas Ring drops...I wish I screencapped the ffxiah shouts screen because I dont think they were trolling.

[Korialstrasz]

I like how there is always that one guy that keeps shouting while everyone else is using /yell.

[tisiphone]

I like the people that use shout and yell for the same stuff.

[Karbuncle]

I like the people that use shout and yell for the same stuff.

Some folks have yell filtered. Force of habit i suppose.