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[Dotsudoku]

What he said. The adjustments to PR are great for buffing in general, but they require time to perfect.

And COR damage becomes event more irrelevant when you consider the need to have somebody at the rune. You'll lose a lot of time in the grand scheme if somebody is repeatedly having to run back. I'm one of our two SCH, and I've made the mistake of thinking I could wander off a bit to help kill/look for things, and it always ends in my "helping" slowly us down slightly.

[Nightfyre]

Loss of Embrava's regen for half your run shouldn't go unnoted either. Goes a long way towards self-sufficiency among your DDs when everyone's splitting up to kill things.

[Dotsudoku]

Yeah, having either Embrava or Regen5 wear off in the middle of a floor is immediately noticeable. You guys give me a heart attack just watching your HP bars from the rune :s

[Airenn]

We had an Embrava SCH with us last night (first time) and the SCH himself is... pretty bad.

But wow Embrava is crazy. We also had a BLU first time and it was nice. Sleep shit + magic is nice. Those two people aren't normally in the static but we kinda wanted to see how it works out since SCH and BLU is so highly rated for this event.

So, our static has 3 people lvling SCH and 2 finishing up BLU's.

We were going with

DRG
WAR
DNC
WHM
COR
RNG

But we knew we were hindered with COR and RNG as it's Ranged shit and not as "quick". Regardless that my COR and Myrrh's RNG's are fucking great it's still not a good setup. Roll's are fucking awesome, but if we have SCH, it's not needed.

So, what we're looking at now

COR -> SCH
WHM -> SCH
RNG ->BLU
WAR -> SAM(he's finishing masa soon)
DRG
DNC

I know the DNC thing seems meh, but considering she's got Torp and Emp we're not fighting it. She's good DD, healing and soloing power. So atm we're not changing it up.

3 of us are running speed move, 4 of us lamp changes. I'm really excited about this cause we're finally static-ing completely to try it for good. And HOLY FUCK Embrava.

Not many on our server do this as a regular thing so pretty sure no one has the 100 FL gear really.

Small Edit: Thanks to Yugl and Uryuu for help in PMs with setup. Majorly appreciated.

Second Edit: Did four runs last night

First Three
WHM
COR
RNG
DNC
WAR
BLU

Floors 70 something, 60 something and 60 something again I think

Fourth rep the WHM with SCH and got to floor 63? We got HUGE floors and that particular SCH isn't as quick at reactions than I know me and Aku will me.

[Dotsudoku]

I'm not going to say it's a deal-breaker for regular 100's, but does the DNC have anything else available? Haste Samba is borderline useless, and the cures are going to be mostly superfluous. You'd be substantially better off with somebody who will really benefit from capped magic haste and regain.

And if your SCH isn't particularly bright, encourage(read: demand) that they create stratagem macros and pre-charge toward the end of a floor to rebuff immediately on the subsequent one. You save precious seconds by hitting Accession/Perpetuance before you're warped upward, making it easy to just spam whatever spell it was you're casting while the CS is finishing.

[Diomer]

We had an Embrava SCH with us last night (first time) and the SCH himself is... pretty bad.

But wow Embrava is crazy. We also had a BLU first time and it was nice. Sleep shit + magic is nice. Those two people aren't normally in the static but we kinda wanted to see how it works out since SCH and BLU is so highly rated for this event.

So, our static has 3 people lvling SCH and 2 finishing up BLU's.

We were going with

DRG
WAR
DNC
WHM
COR
RNG

But we knew we were hindered with COR and RNG as it's Ranged shit and not as "quick". Regardless that my COR and Myrrh's RNG's are fucking great it's still not a good setup. Roll's are fucking awesome, but if we have SCH, it's not needed.

So, what we're looking at now

COR -> SCH
WHM -> SCH
RNG ->BLU
WAR -> SAM(he's finishing masa soon)
DRG
DNC

I know the DNC thing seems meh, but considering she's got Torp and Emp we're not fighting it. She's good DD, healing and soloing power. So atm we're not changing it up.

3 of us are running speed move, 4 of us lamp changes. I'm really excited about this cause we're finally static-ing completely to try it for good. And HOLY FUCK Embrava.

Not many on our server do this as a regular thing so pretty sure no one has the 100 FL gear really.

Small Edit: Thanks to Yugl and Uryuu for help in PMs with setup. Majorly appreciated.

Second Edit: Did four runs last night

First Three
WHM
COR
RNG
DNC
WAR
BLU

Floors 70 something, 60 something and 60 something again I think

Fourth rep the WHM with SCH and got to floor 63? We got HUGE floors and that particular SCH isn't as quick at reactions than I know me and Aku will me.

Not true; I've seen quite a few pieces of 100 gear around on this server and personally I have 3; someone in my group 5/5 too. Also; got massively dicked @ F70 today with a Hydra all including 4 other NMs and ~30 mobs total. I'd say any floor like that is more than likely a run ender and it definitely was for us combined with a lot of meh jumps. Made it to 80 still, but dear god that floor consumed so much time.

[Airenn]

I'm not going to say it's a deal-breaker for regular 100's, but does the DNC have anything else available? Haste Samba is borderline useless, and the cures are going to be mostly superfluous. You'd be substantially better off with somebody who will really benefit from capped magic haste and regain.

And if your SCH isn't particularly bright, encourage(read: demand) that they create stratagem macros and pre-charge toward the end of a floor to rebuff immediately on the subsequent one. You save precious seconds by hitting Accession/Perpetuance before you're warped upward, making it easy to just spam whatever spell it was you're casting while the CS is finishing.

Well that SCH that we took is... a Great SMN! But slow with SCH. Aku and I both have quick reflexes and WHM mains. We'll handle SCH much better. I have a G15 and a good macro setup so I'm ok and Aku is one of the best WHM/BLMs I've seen so I think he'll do well. When he's not being a dipshit and staring at Adam Levine that is.

As for the DNC, she doesn't have anything that's as good except THF. THF and DNC are her main DD's and she's got WHM SMN BLM... ? I really know that taking a DNC is hindering, but if we hit a FL 100 with her, I'm not going to question it. We haven't really started until last night and those were test runs while we gear up SCH and BLU in the next few days.

As for DNC cures, I'm thinking if we take in two SCHs and they handle cures, she can WS for DMG and her DMG is sick when she's in DD mode. I've seen her in Saber with Haste Samba up and it's retarded sometimes.

[Airenn]

Not true; I've seen quite a few pieces of 100 gear around on this server and personally I have 3; someone in my group 5/5 too. Also; got massively dicked @ F70 today with a Hydra all including 4 other NMs and ~30 mobs total. I'd say any floor like that is more than likely a run ender and it definitely was for us combined with a lot of meh jumps. Made it to 80 still, but dear god that floor consumed so much time.

I honestly had no idea anyone went enough with enough competence on our server. Grats!

I wasn't trying to be mean about the competence thing but wow Carby has some idiots. I didn't think enough good people had banded together to run this event yet with skill (and clipper and shit) it's like pulling teeth talking to my group about it atm. We might have 4 with 200% speed but right now only 3 for sure.

[Diomer]

I honestly had no idea anyone went enough with enough competence on our server. Grats!

I wasn't trying to be mean about the competence thing but wow Carby has some idiots. I didn't think enough good people had banded together to run this event yet with skill (and clipper and shit) it's like pulling teeth talking to my group about it atm. We might have 4 with 200% speed but right now only 3 for sure.

Clipper really isn't necessary; although your setup with subpar DDs would most likely make it necessary to even have a chance @ F100. Obviously no one is going to dispute that if you use clipper, it significantly improves your chances to win, but personally, it's not worth the risk to me as I'm on my last strike and it's definitely possible to win a decent portion of runs without it using the right setup.

[Airenn]

Clipper really isn't necessary; although your setup with subpar DDs would most likely make it necessary to even have a chance @ F100. Obviously no one is going to dispute that if you use clipper, it significantly improves your chances to win, but personally, it's not worth the risk to me as I'm on my last strike and it's definitely possible to win a decent portion of runs without it using the right setup.

Wait, so you're telling me the people in your runs are runnig at normal speed? No enhancement at all?

What setup are you taking as well? Is BLU worth it or should we go harder DD in replacement of it? The WAR(SAM) and DRG are very good DD's, well geared, merited, skilled, weapons, etc.

[Rehn]

For the groups that can reach 100 with any regularity: does vent help? Most my group can manage is mid 80ish, and this is with me pushing them and telling to be aggressive >< otherwise we seem to be at a standstill. I believe 3 of us are using lamp renamers for orders, and fillmode; we don't really touch the bigger stuff. Also, is sprinter's shoes really worth using? I personally don't feel like it is, but I could try them if people says otherwise.

[Airenn]

For the groups that can reach 100 with any regularity: does vent help? Most my group can manage is mid 80ish, and this is with me pushing them and telling to be aggressive >< otherwise we seem to be at a standstill. I believe 3 of us are using lamp renamers for orders, and fillmode; we don't really touch the bigger stuff. Also, is sprinter's shoes really worth using? I personally don't feel like it is, but I could try them if people says otherwise.

I require everyone to be on vent and able to talk really. (Shit I did this for regular Nyzul.)

Stopping to use sprinter's is a hindrance imo. Not to mention they wear off on attacking, being attacked. And the 15 seconds to reuse, etc. No.

[Mojo]

What items are worth setting on the vending box?

[Diomer]

Wait, so you're telling me the people in your runs are runnig at normal speed? No enhancement at all?

What setup are you taking as well? Is BLU worth it or should we go harder DD in replacement of it? The WAR(SAM) and DRG are very good DD's, well geared, merited, skilled, weapons, etc.

If they are; it's not noticeable, but I know for a fact 4/6 don't; one person uses powder boots with pretty good timing on the larger floors to help out.
Setup:
SCH (Me)
SCH
99 Amano SAM
99 Apoc DRK (Me)
99 Gungnir DRG
90? Masamune SAM

I leave my SCH @ portal full time; other SCH will follow/haste; I haste myself though most times at the start of the floor.

As for BLU, I always considered BLU useless, but I've never seen a good one in Nyzul. DNC is definitely a waste of a spot though, especially with Embrava; Cures really are never necessary with Regen up too.

[Dotsudoku]

For the groups that can reach 100 with any regularity: does vent help? Most my group can manage is mid 80ish, and this is with me pushing them and telling to be aggressive >< otherwise we seem to be at a standstill. I believe 3 of us are using lamp renamers for orders, and fillmode; we don't really touch the bigger stuff. Also, is sprinter's shoes really worth using? I personally don't feel like it is, but I could try them if people says otherwise.

Anything that cuts time spent typing is going to help, so yes. The lamp dat edits and fillmode really shouldn't be optional. Honestly though, if you're plateauing that low, it's probably time to find another group.

[Diomer]

Anything that cuts time spent typing is going to help, so yes. The lamp dat edits and fillmode really shouldn't be optional. Honestly though, if you're plateauing that low, it's probably time to find another group.

Yeah, I really don't see anyone reaching 100 without fillmode and lamps .dats at bare minimum. Also; if you can identify who it is; one person can REALLY slow down your whole group at times unfortunately so you may have to just get rid of that person from your group.

[Airenn]

If they are; it's not noticeable, but I know for a fact 4/6 don't; one person uses powder boots with pretty good timing on the larger floors to help out.
Setup:
SCH (Me)
SCH
99 Amano SAM
99 Apoc DRK (Me)
99 Gungnir DRG
90? Masamune SAM

I leave my SCH @ portal full time; other SCH will follow/haste; I haste myself though most times at the start of the floor.

As for BLU, I always considered BLU useless, but I've never seen a good one in Nyzul. DNC is definitely a waste of a spot though, especially with Embrava; Cures really are never necessary with Regen up too.

Gotcha, thanks for the tips.

[Nightfyre]

What items are worth setting on the vending box?

Fanatic's, body boost, cleric's, maybe sprinter's if you don't use Clipper. Vicar's perhaps. I've got a couple other temps set but I don't think I've actually used them.

EDIT: Calling BLU useless then bringing a DRG, I don't even.

[zagex]

That requires entirely too much standing around to be practical, and COR damage is going to be pitiful compared to available alternatives.

We bring 3 DD, Cor, 2x Sch. We've only failed to reach floor 100 once since the stopper. Cor isn't a bad idea, but you probably shouldn't bring a Cor unless they know wtf they're doing.

You don't really stand around waiting for rolls. You can do a quick roll in the lobby (as people are running to the temp box. Then double up once or twice after porting up as people split up. You're not aiming for 11s, there's not enough time for that.

You mainly re-roll right after porting, and get 1 chance to double up on everyone. After that, people will have split up (usually) so you just try to land subsequent double ups on as many people as possible. Enemy Leader floors are good to re-roll on also.

What items are worth setting on the vending box?

Cleric's Drink is good for all the DDs; the dverger uses an att down move that puts up 3 debuffs (so not easy to erase). And have some sort of cleric's drink rotation.
Sprinter's drink if you're one of the ppl waiting by the porter, but need to run really far for a code lamp floor (and don't use clipper)
Body Boost, Fanatic's, Wing for all the DDs

Items are so cheap you can put anything in, as long as you don't fail often or aren't trying to save up for a mythic. Potion and elixir in case your healer is somewhere else or white magic restriction.

[Prothescar]

EDIT: Calling BLU useless then bringing a DRG, I don't even.

lol'd