House sneaks CISPA vote in - Passes 248-168

[Day]

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...hed-vote.shtml

http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/26/29...e-passes-cispa

Up until this afternoon, the final vote on CISPA was supposed to be tomorrow. Then, abruptly, it was moved up today—and the House voted in favor of its passage with a vote of 248-168. But that's not even the worst part.
The vote followed the debate on amendments, several of which were passed. Among them was an absolutely terrible change (pdf and embedded below—scroll to amendment #6) to the definition of what the government can do with shared information, put forth by Rep. Quayle. Astonishingly, it was described as limiting the government's power, even though it in fact expands it by adding more items to the list of acceptable purposes for which shared information can be used. Even more astonishingly, it passed with a near-unanimous vote. The CISPA that was just approved by the House is much worse than the CISPA being discussed as recently as this morning.

Word.

Edit: The votes by State. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h192

[ronin sparthos]

Chances of being signed into law by Obama?

Forgive me, I haven't kept up with this cybersecurity bill since it was first mentioned a while back.

[Outlaw]

Shit. I hope he vetos it. It has to be passed by the senate too right?

[Byrthnoth]

He has already said he'll veto it, iirc. This could be a ploy to help him with the youth vote and give Republicans something to /soapbox about. When both parties pander to their base, both parties win.

[Day]

His administration said they would strongly advise him to veto or something to that effect.

[Pikarya]

Wouldn't be the first time he's lied on paper.

[Day]

Shit. I hope he vetos it. It has to be passed by the senate too right?

Yeah has to pass senate and not get veto'd.

Thing about this bill is that Facebook, Google and crew aren't against it, since it deals with sharing your information. Welcome to the patriot act of the interwebs.

[Shuvo]

Bah I posted this in the RNC thread cause their was no CISPA thread posted yet. Moving to here.

Voting breakdown is here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h192
To keep this in context:

Voted yes: 248 (R) | 42 (D)
Voted no: 28 (R) | 140 (D)

So, this was primarily supported by the republicans, and opposed by the democrats. I am curious if this will make any of the republicans on this board change their vote?

I'm really wondering if Obama really will veto this... it would be the perfect thing to do now both politically and constitutionally. But knowing how Obama is he'll probably just pass it anyway with some weaksauce type of disapproval.

[Xno Kappa]

My savings is building up quite nicely. Gonna live like a king in Dominican Republic when I retire.

[Synbios]

He has already said he'll veto it, iirc. This could be a ploy to help him with the youth vote and give Republicans something to /soapbox about. When both parties pander to their base, both parties win.

NDAA says hi.

[Ragnus]

Guys! Guys! It just hit me that whenever a Repub claims that they want to limit government they happen to say it on opposite day! See, they're totally not lying at all!

This shit needs to get stopped/veto'd.

My savings is building up quite nicely. Gonna live like a king in Dominican Republic when I retire.

Probably not a bad idea at this point.

[Correction]

Thing about this bill is that Facebook, Google and crew aren't against it, since it deals with sharing your information. Welcome to the patriot act of the interwebs.

This is really weird since the congresspeople from the home districts of FB/Google all voted no.

[Cantih]

Need a title addition. CISPA in Senate, Internet CTA

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com...ling_cispa_we/

CISPA, the bill in Congress that would end privacy on the internet, has gone through a tricky legislative maze that has a lot of people confused.


Here's the deal: CISPA is now tucked inside of Senate bill S.2105, which has bipartisan congressional support, is being actively supported by the Obama Admin., and is scheduled for a vote in early June. It's alive and well, and on a clear path to becoming law.


The Senate goes on recess next week, which means we have exactly 3 days to make calls before they leave for a week and then come back for the vote. The most important thing we can do with that time is to try to get meetings scheduled with our senators while they are in their home states over the recess. This is a proven grassroots strategy that was key to killing SOPA. We can beat CISPA if we do this.

Go here to get your senator and representative's phone numbers, use other websites only to get info. Do not give out personal information (like email/phone numbers) you aren't comfortable with.
https://action.eff.org/o/9042/p/dia/...ction_KEY=8444

[GoggleHead]

Those motherfuckers...

[Ragnus]

Fucking politicians man...

[Acevalefor]

Need a title addition. CISPA in Senate, Internet CTA

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com...ling_cispa_we/


Go here
http://www.privacyisawesome.com/

Ok, I just went to that site and read a little bit about the process they are proposing. I was curious how the senator locator thing worked so I put my phone number in there. I immediately got spammed from an 888 number and got bombarded with SMS texts. There was very little in the texts pertaining to this bill and it looked mostly like an SMS ad campaign to make money for this site.

It wasn't really that invasive, but when I enter information of mine on a promise that the website will just tell me who my senator is then get spammed with texts and automated phone calls really doesn't help people want to call their senator...

I noscripted that website and won't be going back. I don't advise anyone else go there either. Find your senator on Google and contact them on your own...this website really just looks like a way for someone to make a quick buck off of political discord.

[Cantih]

Fair enough, I'll replace the link with a better organization.

[Acevalefor]

Fair enough, I'll replace the link with a better organization.

Thanks. I think that will serve to get the word out a little better.

[myreality]

Obama to 'bypass Congress' on CISPA with cybersecurity executive order

Unable to reach a deal with Congress, President Obama plans to use his power to exert executive actions against the will of lawmakers. The president will issue orders addressing controversial topics including cybersecurity.
Although President Obama has issued fewer executive orders than any president in over 100 years, he is making extensive plans to change that, Washington Post reports quoting people outside the White House involved in discussions on the issues. Due to conflicts with a Congress that too often disagrees on proposed legislation, Obama plans to act alone and is likely "to rely heavily" on his executive powers in future, according to the newspaper.
Obama’s first executive order is expected to be issued this week when the president calls for the creation of new standards on what private-sector companies must do to protect their computer systems from a cybersecurity breach.
The order is a direct response to Congress’ refusal to pass the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) last year, which the administration deemed crucial to prevent crippling attacks on the nation’s infrastructure. But members of Congress who opposed the legislation cited serious privacy concerns with giving the government greater access to Americans’ personal information that only private companies and servers might have access to.
Despite opposition from lawmakers, the president will use his executive powers to issue an order addressing cybersecurity initiatives.
“It is a very dangerous road he’s going down contrary to the spirit of the Constitution,” Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) told the Washington Post. “Just because Congress doesn’t act doesn’t mean the president has a right to act.”
But the president has increasingly been issuing executive orders, including 23 actions addressing gun violence after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School. The 23 orders angered lawmakers who are opposed to tighter gun legislation. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) accused the president of demonstrating a “king complex” by exerting so many orders.
Major executive actions implemented by the president also include orders delaying deportations of young illegal immigrants and orders to lower student loan payments.
The president plans to have a greater impact during his second term by increasing his number of executive actions. He is currently considering extending anti-discrimination protections for homosexuals employed by the government and working with the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate carbon emissions. He is also planning to allow nearly 11 million struggling homeowners to refinance their mortgages at low interest rates.
The White House has made it clear that if Congress continues to disagree on issues that Obama considers important, the president will go ahead and use his power to pass new laws on his own.
And even though the president has passed executive orders at a lower rate than most of his predecessors – including former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, doing so has not come without criticism.
"Obama's increasing reliance on executive orders to push policy and skirt congressional deliberation is worrisome," tweeted Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).
The president is expected to reference some of his imminent executive actions in his State of the Union address on Tuesday.

http://rt.com/usa/news/congress-exec...president-958/

[hey]

Although President Obama has issued fewer executive orders than any president in over 100 years,

SO WORRIESOME!