House sneaks CISPA vote in - Passes 248-168

**Mazmaz** · 2013-02-12 06:44

I didn't know there was such a thing as Executive Order. If it existed, why was all this "Congress doesn't get along" nonsense an issue? Why didn't Obama just raise the debt ceiling himself or whatever.

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-02-12 07:30

Do not rike CISPA, though.

**myreality** · 2013-02-12 07:39

Originally Posted by Mazmaz

I didn't know there was such a thing as Executive Order. If it existed, why was all this "Congress doesn't get along" nonsense an issue? Why didn't Obama just raise the debt ceiling himself or whatever.

Because of this system we feign to be a democracy.

**Ragnus** · 2013-02-12 08:34

Couldn't Obama just line item veto the CISPA part of it if he really cared?

**kuronosan** · 2013-02-12 09:52

You're assuming he really cares.

**Tyrath** · 2013-02-12 10:28

Just because Congress doesn’t act doesn’t mean the president has a right to act.

lolol

Just because we are incompetent, he should be too!

**Restrat** · 2013-02-12 13:57

line item veto is unconstitutional

**test123** · 2013-02-12 14:06

Your own fault for not voting Ron Paul.

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-02-12 14:38

Originally Posted by Mazmaz

I didn't know there was such a thing as Executive Order. If it existed, why was all this "Congress doesn't get along" nonsense an issue? Why didn't Obama just raise the debt ceiling himself or whatever.

Executive orders are very limited in scope, and cannot do nearly as much as legislation can. Look at his EOs in the gun debate - it was a lot of "calling upon X agency to study Y" and such. Until we see the wording of his cybersecurity EO we can't really judge it.

Originally Posted by test123

Your own fault for not voting Ron Paul.

fucking lol

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-02-12 14:48

It's BG's fault that Ron Paul didn't win. If only he had our 3,000 vote boost spread across Canada, the UK, and mostly irrelevant states, he would have won!

**Qalbert** · 2013-02-12 15:02

fucking hipsters

**dejet** · 2013-02-12 15:07

Executive orders are meant to be used when the country is at risk. Really I do not think the constitution even has something called executive order. I could be wrong if someone can point it out. orders like FDR's order for Japanese people in WW2 show just how much power there is behind this.

Executive orders are very limited in scope, and cannot do nearly as much as legislation can. Look at his EOs in the gun debate - it was a lot of "calling upon X agency to study Y" and such. Until we see the wording of his cybersecurity EO we can't really judge it.

The main problem with this is that there are always questions on if said president has power to do a given order. Often major changes happen to a law and sidestep congress. Thus making a damn law without needing to pass.

I kinda hope he does some big orders, should be fun to see the reaction of republicans when he jumps right over them lol

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-02-12 15:16

Executive orders are not laws, they're commands designed to clarify how the law is interpreted / define policies not touched in the laws for government agencies. This means that they can be directly countermanded by the next president. That's the primary advantage (in terms of legacy) to actually passing laws.

**MF Perm tha Fineass** · 2013-02-12 16:09

Originally Posted by test123

Your own fault for not voting Ron Paul.

**quannum** · 2013-02-12 16:44

Originally Posted by test123

Your own fault for not voting Ron Paul.

because ronny is always good for a lol...

Originally Posted by http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/11/ron-paul-files-suit-for-domain-name-leaving-supporters-bummed-but-fighting/

Libertarian folk hero and retired Rep. Ron Paul is fighting to take the domain name RonPaul.com from a legion of loyal supporters. And he's turning to an unlikely source for help, filing a complaint with an agency of the United Nations -- a body he's criticized for years.

The site owners’ response: “That’s not cool! We want our old pre-retirement Ron Paul back!”

**Byrthnoth** · 2013-02-25 17:01

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirh...-alert-system/

tl;dr:
If you're on one of the 5 major ISPs for the US (Comcast, AT&T, Cablevision, Time Warner, or Verizon) then a third party organization is going to be analyzing everything you do on the internet to see if you're pirating RIAA/MPAA files. If you do download such files, you will be warned three times and then they'll nerf your internet speed substantially. After 6 times, they'll stop sending you messages but will keep nerfing your speed.

**AidenCarby** · 2013-02-25 17:12

Aren't they already doing this?

**archibaldcrane** · 2013-02-25 17:33

Curious if private trackers will be analyzed for this.

**Skjie** · 2013-02-25 19:56

7 proxies, etc.

**Pirian** · 2013-02-25 23:58

Well, I guess that's enough motivation for me to proxy up, bleh

Thread: House sneaks CISPA vote in - Passes 248-168

Thread Tools

Latest Threads

Up & Coming Threads

Hottest Threads