Do not poke the bear

**Wenrick** · 2012-04-30 13:13

There needs to be a way to temporarily cancel a safe zone. Like a scroll or potion that the guild leader can buy with Cath Awards (like maybe 300 or something). After using it, it prompts him to select the guild we are at war with that we wish to cancel their safe zones for us. Once used it could have a 1 hour effective time. I dunno, this "healers at the edge of the safe zone healing outside the safe zone" shit is infuriating.

Also, screenshot that stalled my computer for 12 seconds. Spoilered for huge.

Spoiler: show

**Eddard** · 2012-04-30 13:21

I just loved their whole mentality on declaring war on us...

CR: "Fight us fair in 5v5. "
Vandole: "You declared on us, we're going to bring all our resources. Stop being fucking pussies."
CR: "This isn't fair you have like 30 people."
BG: "You have like 25 sitting in safe zones, come out and play."
CR: "You guys are a zerg guild."
BG: "You guys just suck."

That was pretty much the whole time in Tulufan until Cultist's Refuge crashed. lol

**shepardG** · 2012-04-30 13:23

Yeah I think they need to work out some of the kinks in the PvP system or else wack shit like this is going to keep happening. A few ideas I had:

1. Tie the political system into the safe zones, I.E, someone from BG is the van arch of (insert whatever zone), guild a and b declare war on BG, that zone would have no safe zones for either side.
2. Instanced safe zone abolishment: buy random item from guild merchant, and for the length of the GvG that zone will have no safe zones for their guild (or both guilds)
3. Temp debuff for ganking players 5 levels below you, even worse for a player 10 levels below you.
4. No points for player kills 5-10 levels below you. No point in ganking a lower level player, since that's how these bitch guilds are earning their points

I would like to continue this discussion in another thread though, maybe compile our ideas and the send them off to EME and or post on the OF.

**Leashedragon** · 2012-04-30 13:23

Hey.. that screenshot looks like when they called in the backup and had us in the camp and were complaining we wouldn't come out and fight. Some people are so hard to please.

**Lucavi** · 2012-04-30 13:43

PVP will always be a joke as long as you can cower in towns, despite either being an outlaw (where is the logic in having a safe zone when you are essentially declaring treason on the Federation?), or waging a GVG battle. From a lore perspective, I suppose the latter makes sense, as the GvG wars aren't official Federation business or anything, but from a gameplay standpoint... well, just look at how Darkfall Online is doing these days.

If nothing else, they need to introduce a system of having the guards chase after people in-town that are either outlaws or in a GVG battle, and kicking them out of town with a debuff or something. I know its too much to ask for a dev that's not ArenaNet to program NPCs to do anything more than sit around in town or fight scripted fights against other scripted NPCs, but it really takes the punch out of PVP knowing that you have all of 3 seconds to chase someone down before they run back into town and start talking shit, and there isn't anything you can do about it. Hell, even killing someone drops them right in town...

**Takie** · 2012-04-30 14:19

Outposts shouldn't be safe zones at all anyway. I understand Velika or other major cities but there is no way the 3 guards in an outpost can hold back our army.

In other news, I was really impressed and happy with our turnout. We mobilized quickly and in force. Funny how when we showed up CK referred to GvG vs. us as poking a sleeping bear lol

**Rulke** · 2012-04-30 15:01

Originally Posted by Takie

Outposts shouldn't be safe zones at all anyway. I understand Velika or other major cities but there is no way the 3 guards in an outpost can hold back our army.

I don't play on a PvP server, but this makes total sense. Actually surprised its not set up like this.

**Prothescar** · 2012-04-30 15:14

It was sort of like the United States entering WWII. Japan fucked with our shit, so we fucked up their day.

**fattucus** · 2012-04-30 15:15

Originally Posted by Takie

Outposts shouldn't be safe zones at all anyway. I understand Velika or other major cities but there is no way the 3 guards in an outpost can hold back our army.

maybe they should implement this. make targetable 'barriers' at outposts. if a guild breaks it, the outpost is no longer safe for 24 hours.

or just kill the guards

**Eddard** · 2012-04-30 15:17

Originally Posted by Prothescar

It was sort of like the United States entering WWII. Japan fucked with our shit, so we fucked up their day.

LOL This was the exact situation I was thinking of when they were bitching about us bringing 65% (random number) of our guild to the battle field. They declared war and ganked our lowbies, so we called forth Big Cock BG and rode into glorious battle only to watch our opponents cower in fear from the safety of Tulufan and South Aurum Road safe zones.

**Greatguardian** · 2012-04-30 15:24

Originally Posted by Eddard

LOL This was the exact situation I was thinking of when they were bitching about us bringing 65% (random number) of our guild to the battle field. They declared war and ganked our lowbies, so we called forth Big Cock BG and rode into glorious battle only to watch our opponents cower in fear from the safety of Tulufan and South Aurum Road safe zones.

The best part? At the height of the GvG, we had approximately 12% of our guild in the field.

**Lucavi** · 2012-04-30 15:26

Yeah, if I was there, I'd have counted for another 12% alone. :3

**shepardG** · 2012-04-30 15:35

Rofl , this mother fuckers cock SO BIG

<3 u luc ^^

**Lucavi** · 2012-04-30 15:37

I enjoyed getting my gold axe, then promptly 2-shotting some outlaw popori 38 mage. One half-charged TS knocked him on his ass for 8k, and the leaping strike crit for 9k and that was that. Its a shame that people's defense doesn't match their offensive potential; buncha glass cannons in this game, myself included.

**Senji** · 2012-04-30 16:08

Originally Posted by Takie

Outposts shouldn't be safe zones at all anyway. I understand Velika or other major cities but there is no way the 3 guards in an outpost can hold back our army.

In other news, I was really impressed and happy with our turnout. We mobilized quickly and in force. Funny how when we showed up CK referred to GvG vs. us as poking a sleeping bear lol

Originally Posted by Lucavi

I enjoyed getting my gold axe, then promptly 2-shotting some outlaw popori 38 mage. One half-charged TS knocked him on his ass for 8k, and the leaping strike crit for 9k and that was that. Its a shame that people's defense doesn't match their offensive potential; buncha glass cannons in this game, myself included.

This is how pvp mmos seem to work with epics vs greens.

**Lucavi** · 2012-04-30 16:30

Glad GW2 is gonna change that.

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