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  1. #101
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    Well, her CURRENT set is:

    Surya's +1/Curato/x/Aqua Sachet
    Orison+1/Morgana's Choker/Orison/Star Earring
    Noble's/Augur's/Ephedra/Sirona's
    Oretania's/Cleric's/Praeco/Orison+1

    I need to +2 her +1 stuff but I've been TERRIBLY lazy/busy with other shit. What are some basic improvements other than finishing Arka IV and +2 Empy head/feet for cures?

  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Nguul vs Bryoja's + Uther for Last Stand on RNG/WAR... Anyone?
    What about Aluh Jambiya? (You'd lose +4STR from not being able to use Uther's grip, but get fencer's TP bonus, not sure which would be better 4STR vs 20tp Bonus tbh)

  3. #103
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    I would think 7Agi 10Ratt would beat 10Str on a 100%AGI WS.

  4. #104
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    Yeah more base dmg and more ratt (though in the situations I'm using it that may be capped) little less racc. Just wondering when more base dmg really starts outweighting fencer especially in zergs and/or vw when you over tp alot

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    Depends how much AGI you have really. Napkin'd near 300AGI the Fencer bonus would roughly equal 7AGI, so you'd need to look in that range at whether 10STR moves fSTR more than it moves WSC.

  6. #106
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    Well I know at 100% fencer will definitely win the day. I mean 300 agi is pretty huge outside of abyssea. And in pure stat bonus staff/grip only wins by a little over 1 base dmg... which was less than I thought it would be lol. Now that I think about it that should probably kill anything lower than 300% tp. Damn I was hoping to have a use for bro staff

  7. #107
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    BLM legs
    AF2+2 > AF3+2 > AF2 on correct day?

  8. #108
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    I thought +2 legs made the legs worse? The NQ/+1 have 5% damage bonus but the +2 has MAB+5.

  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    I thought +2 legs made the legs worse? The NQ/+1 have 5% damage bonus but the +2 has MAB+5.
    I have no clue, why I was asking, I just couldnt understand why they would remove the bonus for the day, if it became worse. But then again its SE.

    How do the AF3 legs compare then, still best to use relic on corresponding day?

  10. #110
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    NQ Relic > Emp+2. If the +2 has the same bonus and the 5MAB is an error, then those are best. However, that's only if you're willing to use inventory towards that.

  11. #111
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    SA Rudra's Storm

    Snow Belt vs Cuch Belt
    Snow Gorget vs Love Torque

  12. #112
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    hello,

    got 4 pieces of thaumas gear yesterday which complets my set.
    question: unstacked exenterator on THF/DNC (mostly used for dynamis)
    currently using 4/5 thaumas, except body.
    so: kudzu aketon vs thaumas coat (full set bonus + multi attacks) vs athos tabard (dont have it yet)

    also, what belt/neck to use for exenterator unstacked, currently Im using elementals because Im lazy and dont wanna spend two more inventory slots.

  13. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssjjfar View Post
    SA Rudra's Storm

    Snow Belt vs Cuch Belt
    Snow Gorget vs Love Torque
    Go Cuch/Love

  14. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clubber View Post
    hello,

    got 4 pieces of thaumas gear yesterday which complets my set.
    question: unstacked exenterator on THF/DNC (mostly used for dynamis)
    currently using 4/5 thaumas, except body.
    so: kudzu aketon vs thaumas coat (full set bonus + multi attacks) vs athos tabard (dont have it yet)

    also, what belt/neck to use for exenterator unstacked, currently Im using elementals because Im lazy and dont wanna spend two more inventory slots.
    Justiciar's and Crudelis (or maybe Prosilo, not sure). Coat boils down to 3TA/3QA vs 5Str/5Agi/13Att, which I'm not sure on.

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    Kudzu > Thaumas > Athos for exenterator if you're already using the other 4 pieces.

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    I'm seeing so much deviation for Mercy Stroke sets out there (even among posts here). Can someone build me the best MS set possible? Gorgets and elemental belts, or just all out STR/Attack/QA/TA/DA? Also helpful would be the addition of 2nd best in slot.

    Thanks in advance.

  17. #117
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    Last I checked (things could have changed):
    Head: Augmented Hecatomb +1
    Neck: Justiciar's
    L.Ear: Vulcan's
    R.Ear: Vulcan's/Brutal (Unsure)
    Body: Toci's > Tessera
    Hands: AF3+2
    L.Ring: Pyrosoul/Strigoi
    R.Ring: Rajas (SA) or Pyrosoul/Strigoi
    Back: Cerb. Mantle +1 > Atheling (unsure)
    Waist: Prosilo Belt
    Legs: Whirlwind Dirs > Thaumas Kecks
    Feet: Augmented Hecatomb +1

  18. #118
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    Is there anything cheaper/easier than WAR relic +2 hands for upheaval?

    stats:

    War. Mufflers +2
    Rare Ex
    [Hands] All Races
    DEF:29 HP+28 STR+7 VIT+7Attack+17 Physical damage taken -3%
    LV 90 WAR

  19. #119
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    Well I don't know about cheaper... but Mavros Moufles are craftable and are T1 able. Less attack but more str/vit. Only about 300k per synth over here so should be able to get one made for decent price.

    And if you do nyzle there is always those

  20. #120
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    My thf tp set is this. Aluh jambiya / TK / raider's rang
    AF3+2 / Nefarious / brutal / suppa
    Mirki W. with crit rate3 DA2 / Dusk+1 / epona's / rajas
    Rancorous / twilight / AF3+2 / ballerines

    I set it up for crits outside since i don't abyssea really now. I want to keep with the crit rate if possible. If there's other set ups that produce more DOT please help me out on what i need to replace or work towards. Would like to push thf to max dps over just being a th whore. Thanks in advance.

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