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  1. #41
    Chram
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    Here's the data with 400 data points. That's still a small data set, but it begins to give us an idea. In the far left column, the bold numbers 1-4 indicate the grade used (1 is white, 2 is green, etc). Under those in the left column are the enchant level before attempt. The middle column is the percentage pass/fail rate. The last is the number of attempts. Again keep in mind that this does not account for higher pass rates at lower tiers.

  2. #42
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    T4:
    g +1
    g +2
    g + 3
    g fail x3
    b +4
    b fail x3
    b +5
    b fail x11
    b +6

    T5:
    w +1
    w +2
    w fail x2
    w +3
    w fail x2
    g fail x4
    g +4
    b +5
    b fail x5
    b +6

    T8:
    w +1
    w fail x1
    w +2
    w +3
    w +4
    w fail x4
    w +5
    w fail x1
    g fail x3
    b fail x2
    S +6

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    What item type and character lvl are these?

    My guess is T4 is 22, T5 is 27, T8 is ... ? 42ish?

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    All weapons: 22,27,44.

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    lvl 27 gold weapon, tier 5, started at +5
    green fail
    blue succeed to +6
    gold succeed to +7

    lvl 27 gold gloves, tier 5
    white pass to +1
    green pass to +2
    blue pass to +3

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    0/4 +8 Gold T12 Hand upgrade using T12 gold
    0/4 +8 Gold T12 Feet upgrade using T12 gold
    0/8 +8 Gold T12 Weapon upgrade using T12.

    At least you can't go down, right? Right??

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    Weapon Lv47 tier 9 starting at +3
    +3 - green - fail
    +3 - green - pass to +4
    +4 - blue - pass to +5
    +5 - blue - fail
    +5 - blue - fail
    +5 - blue - fail
    +5 - blue - fail
    +5 - blue - fail
    +5 - blue - fail
    +5 - blue - fail (7 total)
    +5 - blue - pass to +6
    Currently +6.

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    Level 27 gold gloves
    White pass to +1
    White pass to +2
    Green pass to +3
    Green fail
    White fail
    Green fail
    White pass to +4
    White pass to +5
    Green pass to +6

  9. #49
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    Level 43 Blue body (tier 8? I'll check after I log in in an hour or so)

    White +1 pass
    White +2 fail
    White +2 pass
    White +3 fail
    White +3 pass
    White +4 fail x3
    Green +4 pass
    Green +5 pass
    Green +6 pass

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    Level 27 (t5) green glove

    green +1
    green +2
    green +3
    green fail x2
    green +4
    green fail x13
    green +5
    green fail x7
    blue fail x2
    green +6

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    I don't know what his track record up to that point is, but Tsumi is now 0/25 on getting his Aestivax (T12) from +8 to +9, using golds for all of them.

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    Sometimes, I think.... the use of golds/blues/greens/whites is questionable.. as its all chance.. and possibly the same rate of chance.

    From what I've "heard" (not done personally)
    People have gotten +8 and even +9 during the day if the enchanting exploit using whites in under 20 tries.

    Really makes ya wonder sometimes.... was the "gold gear is best chance" a marketing ploy to make people rich... or tested and proven fact by some group of koreans doing the same as we are doing here? O_o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice View Post
    I don't know what his track record up to that point is, but Tsumi is now 0/25 on getting his Aestivax (T12) from +8 to +9, using golds for all of them.
    A man who shares my pain. My heart goes out to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    Sometimes, I think.... the use of golds/blues/greens/whites is questionable.. as its all chance.. and possibly the same rate of chance.

    From what I've "heard" (not done personally)
    People have gotten +8 and even +9 during the day if the enchanting exploit using whites in under 20 tries.

    Really makes ya wonder sometimes.... was the "gold gear is best chance" a marketing ploy to make people rich... or tested and proven fact by some group of koreans doing the same as we are doing here? O_o
    That's exactly what I was wondering regarding the recent exploit. I'd like to know the success rate of +7/8/9 using non-golds as sacrifice items. Of course, this is assuming that the use of normal alkahests over refined had zero influence on the success rate of +7/8/9 vs +1/~/6.

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    Well, that's the purpose of this thread. It really depends on the % spread between the item types. If using a gold weapon is only a 10% chance, for +8 - +9, and a white item is a 1% chance, then yes, you can have people get lucky and white pass a +9. However, if gold is a 20% chance, and white is a 1% chance, it's a lot less likely to ever see a white pass +9. RNG is still RNG though....

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    Gold 28 axe, tier 5
    White - pass to +1
    White - Fail
    White - pass to +2
    White - Fail
    Green - pass to +3
    Blue - pass to +4
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail (5)
    Blue - Fail
    White - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Green - pass to +5
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Blue - Fail
    Green - Fail
    Green - Fail
    White - Fail
    White - Fail
    White - Fail

    xD

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    Superior T11 weapon, starting at +3

    Green, pass to +4
    White, fail
    White, fail
    White, fail
    White, fail
    Gold, pass to +5
    Gold, fail
    White, fail

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    Blue level 30 (t6) glove
    white +1
    green +2
    green +3
    green +4
    green fail x2
    green +5
    green fail x34
    blue fail x3
    green +6

    Blue 33 (t6) glove

    green +1
    green +2
    green +3
    green +4
    green fail x1
    green +5
    green fail x3
    green +6

    Blue 33 (t6) bow
    green +1
    green +2
    green +3
    green fail x4
    green +4
    green fail x8
    blue fail x2

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    Level 58 Gold Body
    White fail to +1
    White +1
    White +2
    White fail to +3
    Green +3
    Green +4
    Green fail
    Blue fail
    Blue +5
    Blue fail
    Blue fail
    Blue fail
    Blue fail
    Blue fail
    Blue fail
    Blue +6


    I have shitty luck even for +6 -_-

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    T11 or 12?

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