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    Practically every MMO launches with no free trial available, there tends to be issues with congestion already due to launch fever, adding free trialers on top of that would be crazy.

    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    https://buy.guildwars2.com/]And it's also one of the more expensive launching MMOs in recent memory...[/url]

    Can't fault people for wanting to try something before dropping a modest chunk of change on it. Like it or not, betas are one method, and you can be damn sure a lot of people use them for such. From the stress test perspective, that's not a bad thing, either.
    As stated, there were multiple chances to get keys. I managed to get one after several tries since I hadn't preordered yet since I wanted a hands on with the game to see how I felt about it, friend of mine did too from the same source(PCGamer). There were tons of keys going around, if you actually bothered to look for one you would have at least had a good chance at entering. If you didn't care enough to look for them then that's perfectly fine, but throwing out incorrect and dumb things like it has a monthly fee(it doesn't) and that it's the most expensive MMO in recent memory(it's not, most are 60, some are 50 but the collectors bonus would knock it up to 60+, and 60 isn't even more than what a new console game costs. And no monthly fee makes it cheaper than majority of those after the 2nd month kicks in) shows you are just throwing out random incorrect claims because you can't play a game you apparently don't care enough about to try to get a key for. But you still REALLY REALLY WANNA TRY IT OUT. If you have nothing intelligent to actually post just don't bother.

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    I didn't say the game had a fee (that was a generalization), and while I incorrectly marked the initial cost at $70, it doesn't change my overall point that trying an MMO isn't cheap without readily available beta access or trials we all know don't come until later with watered down features. Bluntly, someone shouldn't have to do this whole song and dance with alternate sites they'd never otherwise visit to get a hands on peek.

    By the time this thread itself was made, looking back to a lot of the recent links in the big thread pointed to contests/giveaways that had already ended. Personally, I haven't been following the game much because I'm pretty much sick of all the bluster and bravado of the next big MMO claiming to be the shiz. I'd rather just get a hands on impression and go from there. After my initial post here, I'd gone to the AN site hoping maybe they had some kind of official entry going on, but didn't see anything. Maybe I googled wrong, but looking for beta access also had a tendency to link me to info regarding the prior beta.

    So, while there may have been keys "raining from the sky", you had to know where to look, and I'm kinda left sitting here wondering what it would've been like.
    Quoting myself here to emphasize the convolution of this process. If some of you want to be dicks and play the whole "You weren't cool enough/too lazy to look" card, be my guest. For all the greatness some are supposedly claiming, there's some giant bonehead moves coming from the fans and the people behind the game. Spare me the whole schtick on testing. You don't need 500k+ people for the little things ideally stomped out by in-house groups and closed betas pre-NDA releases. We're all being viral marketing ponies. I just find it strange some are taking the extra step of defending the exclusionary method of their actions since I always thought the point of MMOs was to have more people around to play with.

    Not everyone combs giant threads and it's pretty fucking dumb to expect and demand people do so. This post is the last I believe to have been linked offering keys. And hey, I don't fault the thread for mentioning keys now and then. Yet, enter another thread focused more on an actual beta event, a thread started after many of those links ended. I knew enough to know pre-orders got in. Shame on me for being dirty casual enough to be wondering if there might still be openings, or someone else for that matter, just for shit to devolve into people wondering anyone should ever expect a chance to try a game, no a genre, rooted in a metric fuckton of time investment.

    /imad or whatever you wanna call me for not being on ANet's nuts about the game.

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    So what you're saying is you just want ANet to let you play the game during beta weekends without being a pre-purchaser or getting a beta key off a website that is giving them away?

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    Who the fuck let in the Guru fans in here anyway?

    You don't want to get access to beta? Don't, but stop fucking crying about it already.

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    So what you're saying is you just want ANet to let you play the game during beta weekends without being a pre-purchaser or getting a beta key off a website that is giving them away?
    It's a degree of excess at this point. If you're going to throw out that many keys, why not offer them directly to curious potential customers instead of leaving them feeling alienated if they don't have their pulse on the gaming community? Truth be told, I don't surf the net much. Play games on it when needed, chat with friends, handle emails, download shows I miss on TV, then haunt some boards related to the games I do play (some more than others). I'd make a crack about never hunting for porn beyond occasionally browsing the FoD threads, but nobody would believe me.

    Overall, I'm fine with pre-orderers getting perks. Gets a bit dodgy if they start lording that over people who are gun shy about MMOs and their tendencies to flop, though.

    Edit: Clarifying response a bit, and I'll shut up so some can rejoice.

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    You're apparently very stupid so I'll try to make this easy to understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Play games on it when needed, chat with friends, handle emails, download shows I miss on TV, then haunt some boards related to the games I do play (some more than others).
    This is a BETA. For testing. They want people to actually test, post stuff, etc. They don't want some guy who thinks he's entitled to something getting a free ride to try the game out when frankly they are worried about making the game feel right and not about making easy money, hence why there is still no release date. They want to release a good product.

    Also, you complaining about checking the thread, apparently the only way to get keys is to check a thread on BG? Its like you're not even trying to disprove that you aren't a lazy guy who feels entitled to something.

    Games have closed betas, semi open betas, open betas, etc. The open beta majority of the time is the very last one for stress test purposes, and Anet has already said recently they are most likely doing at least 1 more BWE after this one(assuming no glaring issues arise, they should only need the 1 more), meaning this doesn't fall under that condition. For the record I didn't even get my key through BG, I wanted to get a good chance at the key so I followed them on twitter, and they retweeted SEVERAL free key giveaways for awhile leading up to this event. If I wasn't napping I would have gotten one from MMORPG easy, but I got it from another source that they retweeted. And if I didn't get in, unlike you, I wouldn't mindlessly bitch in a topic about not getting in to a beta, much less one that isn't the last one.

    You're seriously bitching about not getting a free 3 day access to a beta version of a game that has had several issues raised on several mechanics this weekend that they are going to have to fix, when you've proven you A) aren't very bright since you pulled random shit out of your ass earlier when you didnt have a key and apparently can't even properly read the very website you linked showing the price points and B) you keep bringing up 'people shy about MMO's flopping'. Yea, the game very well could flop, even if people enjoy it this BWE there's nothing saying it's impossible. If that is such a major concern to you due to recent flopping in years, how about you just wait 1-2 months after release to see if it flops? Cause playing it in a beta surely won't do that, despite what you might 'think'(I put this in quotes because I am not sure you can think at this point).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ica View Post
    So what you're saying is you just want ANet to let you play the game during beta weekends without being a pre-purchaser or getting a beta key off a website that is giving them away?
    Will there be an open beta? If yes then I'm fine with it, but if it's only closed betas then launch that sends up warnings in my head. Sure it's "easy" to snag a key on a website or run through some hoops, but to those that are on the fence and want to try it but arn't going to try to get a key from 10 different sites, an open beta is a great idea.

    Shit I signed up for the betas and never got any email invite or anything *shrug*

    This is a BETA. For testing. They want people to actually test, post stuff, etc. They don't want some guy who thinks he's entitled to something getting a free ride to try the game out when frankly they are worried about making the game feel right and not about making easy money, hence why there is still no release date. They want to release a good product.
    Right they're not interested at all in my $$ i'm sure p_o. The NDA was lifted though correct?

    Why don't people complain about not getting to play any other type of game free before buying it? Just do your research and decide if it's a game you want to play or not like you would do with any other game.
    Part of my research is playing the mother fucking betas. I missed the giveaways, but like I said, I signed up for their beta invites and shit and didn't even get an email about a beta this past weekend. Only found out due to my friends chatting on Skype about it. I researched TERA and read up on it, but I still never pre-ordered it until I had done 2 beta tests and made sure it was something I would even play around with for very long.

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    I've always viewed beta access/early trials as more of a privilege than as something we were owed. If you are curious about the game but don't want to buy it and aren't willing to put the effort to get a beta code maybe you should just wait until the game has been released and they have buddy passes/free trials. Every game ends up having them and most of the bugs that you might encounter in a beta will have been addressed at that point allowing you to experience a more complete version of the game.

    If that is unacceptable and you feel the NEED to play the game early/at release maybe you need to consider putting the effort into getting a code or even consider pre-purchasing. A tip for people who haven't been able to get a code but want to play would be to keep an eye on the GW2 twitter they updated that with every site that was giving away codes. It's one site that you can check and you don't need to be a twitter member to view it. Also if you have a friend that trusts you it is possible to log onto someone else's account without it locking or anything like that.

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    I mean they gave away so many codes you didn't need to camp twitter or anything. Most of those sites were giving away codes for days and days. All ppl had to do was show any interest or check the BG "Guild wars 2" actual thread every few days and catch up on posts since somebody here always posts every beta give-a-way.

    The fact some of you don't want to put in any effort whatsoever just makes me lol. It was so easy to get a code you literally had to click a link on IGN and it gave you a code.

    there is no way to logically rationalize it into thinking that they owe you a free beta or that them not having an OB means the game is sketchy. That may have been true back in the day, but a lot more companies are starting to do just this for beta events

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    omg best event ever...

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    Did anybody get 100% corruption? I WANT TO KNOW IF THE SHATTERER CAME DOWN TO PLAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post


    Quoting myself here to emphasize the convolution of this process. If some of you want to be dicks and play the whole "You weren't cool enough/too lazy to look" card, be my guest. For all the greatness some are supposedly claiming, there's some giant bonehead moves coming from the fans and the people behind the game. Spare me the whole schtick on testing. You don't need 500k+ people for the little things ideally stomped out by in-house groups and closed betas pre-NDA releases. We're all being viral marketing ponies. I just find it strange some are taking the extra step of defending the exclusionary method of their actions since I always thought the point of MMOs was to have more people around to play with.
    If you had a genuine interest in the game and not some passing fancy of trying it out and saying $50 is too much to spend on a game, you'd have done all the research you'd need to pre-purchase or atleast be aware of the possibility of keys being given out at some point. But no, apparently there's alot of butthurt when Anet dosn't email an invite to your inbox.

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    Quoting myself here to emphasize the convolution of this process. If some of you want to be dicks and play the whole "You weren't cool enough/too lazy to look" card, be my guest. For all the greatness some are supposedly claiming, there's some giant bonehead moves coming from the fans and the people behind the game. Spare me the whole schtick on testing. You don't need 500k+ people for the little things ideally stomped out by in-house groups and closed betas pre-NDA releases. We're all being viral marketing ponies. I just find it strange some are taking the extra step of defending the exclusionary method of their actions since I always thought the point of MMOs was to have more people around to play with.

    Not everyone combs giant threads and it's pretty fucking dumb to expect and demand people do so. This post is the last I believe to have been linked offering keys. And hey, I don't fault the thread for mentioning keys now and then. Yet, enter another thread focused more on an actual beta event, a thread started after many of those links ended. I knew enough to know pre-orders got in. Shame on me for being dirty casual enough to be wondering if there might still be openings, or someone else for that matter, just for shit to devolve into people wondering anyone should ever expect a chance to try a game, no a genre, rooted in a metric fuckton of time investment.

    /imad or whatever you wanna call me for not being on ANet's nuts about the game.
    You are the whiniest most entitled person I've seen in a long time. And you have no clue about the actual gaming industry or how it works.

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    I don't think it's fair that the people that paid for the game get to play the game and I can't play for free, you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Will there be an open beta? If yes then I'm fine with it, but if it's only closed betas then launch that sends up warnings in my head.
    We are all just mindless zombie fanbois who will say good things about GW2 just to get you to buy it! Then you will buy it at release and it will be shit. Our master plan has been found out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Part of my research is playing the mother fucking betas.
    Yes, because I'm sure you never bought a video game before playing it... gtfo

    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    omg best event ever...
    Yes it was!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonka View Post
    I don't think it's fair that the people that paid for the game get to play the game and I can't play for free, you guys.
    You're bad, and you should feel bad.

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    Yes, because I'm sure you never bought a video game before playing it... gtfo
    For a MMO? No, I never have. And some of the betas I played made me not purchase the game.

    The fact some of you don't want to put in any effort whatsoever just makes me lol. It was so easy to get a code you literally had to click a link on IGN and it gave you a code.
    I'm sure there were tons of codes, but like I said, I never even knew about a beta event this weekend. Though checking now I do see I did get an email that said "purchase the game to get into beta this weekend!" so I must have missed that completely. I'll have to double check my email next time if there's another beta invite to know when to search for codes. Still though, my point about there needing to be an open beta before launch stands.

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    Solace I'm like 90% sure Tonka was being sarcastic.

    And Meresgi if you only camped your email then that's not their fault, it's yours. Literally every gaming news site had codes to give away(a ton that I never even heard of had 20 or 5 to give away), it was posted here for a few of them, and their twitter was constantly retweeting giveaways being held. You say you don't buy MMO's before trying them yet apparently you don't put in any effort to make yourself aware of a new game coming out since you didn't even know there was a BWE until recently when the date was released weeks ahead of time, and expect them to just hand you codes because you want it. You're sounding as entitled as the other dumb guy from yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness View Post
    Solace I'm like 90% sure Tonka was being sarcastic.
    Orly? ohmagawd! Maybe my sarcasm does not translate well when written. I knew he was.

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    Should just ignore Meresgi. Because if he hasn't got the point by now it's not gonna magically click period. Furthermore he may just be trolling at this rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    Orly? ohmagawd! Maybe my sarcasm does not translate well when written. I knew he was.
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