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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness View Post
    You kiss your mother with that mouth
    No, but I kiss yours with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    You're bad, and you should feel bad.
    Please do not sarcastically reply to my sarcasm with your sarcastic comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    omg best event ever...
    Wish I would've gotten to enjoy it longer than ~10min shit started way late in my overflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonka View Post
    Please do not sarcastically reply to my sarcasm with your sarcastic comments.
    Now that's just uncalled for. I request a duel, good sir!

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    dual? Like another sarcastic comment to go with the first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakson View Post
    dual? Like another sarcastic comment to go with the first?
    Fixed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindSharingan View Post
    I've always viewed beta access/early trials as more of a privilege than as something we were owed. If you are curious about the game but don't want to buy it and aren't willing to put the effort to get a beta code maybe you should just wait until the game has been released and they have buddy passes/free trials. Every game ends up having them and most of the bugs that you might encounter in a beta will have been addressed at that point allowing you to experience a more complete version of the game.

    If that is unacceptable and you feel the NEED to play the game early/at release maybe you need to consider putting the effort into getting a code or even consider pre-purchasing. A tip for people who haven't been able to get a code but want to play would be to keep an eye on the GW2 twitter they updated that with every site that was giving away codes. It's one site that you can check and you don't need to be a twitter member to view it. Also if you have a friend that trusts you it is possible to log onto someone else's account without it locking or anything like that.
    Times change, standards change. Open betas are marketing tools as much as ads or anything else.

    I have been burned on a couple of MMO's now (SWTOR being the most egregious), and I am not going to dump money at a game hoping it is going to be good.

    I have tried to get beta key's but haven't gotten one yet. I am not going to crawl all over the internet just to get one. And I am not going to buy the game without trying it. And I am definitely not going to buy a game just to try it.

    People need to stop living in the bungholes of developers just because they like games. Demanding more isn't bad at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    If you had a genuine interest in the game and not some passing fancy of trying it out and saying $50 is too much to spend on a game, you'd have done all the research you'd need to pre-purchase or atleast be aware of the possibility of keys being given out at some point. But no, apparently there's alot of butthurt when Anet dosn't email an invite to your inbox.
    So only hardcore players get to test it?

    Wouldn't the borderline players be the ones you want testing the game?

    We should have done our research to know that we want to pay for this game to be able to test it to see if we want to buy it? How fucking backwards is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonka View Post
    I don't think it's fair that the people that paid for the game get to play the game and I can't play for free, you guys.
    No one is saying you shouldn't get beta access if you pre-ordered.

    Are you bitter that the real beta testers (you know the ones that test all the time not just one weekend a month) get to do so for free?

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    I don't particularly understand why people are treating the purchase of GW2 as anything other than a normal $60 game. I'm sure you guys have purchased a non-MMO without trying it in the past, so why is GW2 any different? You aren't offering up a monthly fee, so it can easily be treated as a non-MMO in my eyes. Usually I'm hesitant about purchasing an MMO without trying it first because it's more than a $60 investment, whereas GW2 isn't. You pay $60 and that's all the money ANet could ever see from you. How many people already had plans to buy D3 before they got the chance to try it? Why is GW2 any different?

    I'm sure some people went, "Oh, well... I liked Diablo 2 so I'm going to like Diablo 3." That's all fine and good, but I've never based a game purchase based on past products from that company, SE taught me to be much more wary.

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    I don't get the 'crawling over the internet' comment. Again, almost literally every beta key giveaway was retweeted by the GW2 twitter account, I didn't have to spam google or anything. And considering they post all the recent news/interviews/etc over the same account, following it seems like an easy choice if you're really interested in the game and not just complaining that a new game is coming out and you couldn't have access 1 BWE. No game has every single part of the beta phase open, parts of it are always closed, and they said before this weekend there is going to be at least 1 more beta event left for GW2 depending on how things went for them this last weekend, so clearly there is time for the open beta that normally occurs before a launch. And considering the first BWE had terrible lag issues since they weren't expecting so many people, they probably care more about stability for this particular BWE than just overall promotion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arelian View Post
    I don't particularly understand why people are treating the purchase of GW2 as anything other than a normal $60 game. I'm sure you guys have purchased a non-MMO without trying it in the past, so why is GW2 any different? You aren't offering up a monthly fee, so it can easily be treated as a non-MMO in my eyes. Usually I'm hesitant about purchasing an MMO without trying it first because it's more than a $60 investment, whereas GW2 isn't. You pay $60 and that's all the money ANet could ever see from you. How many people already had plans to buy D3 before they got the chance to try it? Why is GW2 any different?

    I'm sure some people went, "Oh, well... I liked Diablo 2 so I'm going to like Diablo 3." That's all fine and good, but I've never based a game purchase based on past products from that company, SE taught me to be much more wary.
    Pretty much this, unlike other MMO models where the content is planned to come out over time, similar to GW1 they are planning majority of stuff to be out at launch. Then major content would come with expansions etc. If you play it for 50ish hours that's still more than most console games nowadays, and it has replay value too due to the different professions + repeatable dungeons and pvp. Comparing it to SWTOR, FF11 or any game where the promise of content is always over time so they can continue to collect subscription fees is a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arelian View Post
    I don't particularly understand why people are treating the purchase of GW2 as anything other than a normal $60 game. I'm sure you guys have purchased a non-MMO without trying it in the past, so why is GW2 any different? You aren't offering up a monthly fee, so it can easily be treated as a non-MMO in my eyes. Usually I'm hesitant about purchasing an MMO without trying it first because it's more than a $60 investment, whereas GW2 isn't. You pay $60 and that's all the money ANet could ever see from you. How many people already had plans to buy D3 before they got the chance to try it? Why is GW2 any different?

    I'm sure some people went, "Oh, well... I liked Diablo 2 so I'm going to like Diablo 3." That's all fine and good, but I've never based a game purchase based on past products from that company, SE taught me to be much more wary.
    Seriously, this. Yes, I know there are other ways to try out regular games like borrowing, renting, etc. But right now, the GW2 beta is not your fucking demo. If there is an open beta weekend before release, great. If not, I guess we will just have to deal with playing without the people in this thread who won't buy the game.

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    People will go drop 60 bucks on Halo 4 no questions asked. There is no difference here besides 100x more hours of enjoyment. Also, before you even say it, gems can be bought with in-game gold so there is no extra cost if you so choose.

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    Guild wars 1 has a trial offer, 15 hours of free play I think? download, create a trial account and you get some time to try out the game, hopefully they will also have something like that for Guild wars 2 going forward a bit after release. But like everyone above has said, If one is really that interested in the game, enough to bitch about it, using a fraction of that energy spent bitching to try for a beta key would do wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Guild wars 1 has a trial offer, 15 hours of free play I think? download, create a trial account and you get some time to try out the game, hopefully they will also have something like that for Guild wars 2 going forward a bit after release. But like everyone above has said, If one is really that interested in the game, enough to bitch about it, using a fraction of that energy spent bitching to try for a beta key would do wonders.
    I actually tried to get one for a buddy and it was kind of a nightmare. There was only one website doing click&claim for keys that I saw and they didn't have a lot to begin with. Everybody else was doing the "redeem super fast after I post them" key deals which just always ends horribly.

    I can sympathize with people who couldn't get beta keys but didn't wanna drop $60 on something they weren't sure they gonna like. Arenanet needs to get a true open beta out there before launch to really lure people into this game. Its still not really mainstream enough to get the attention it deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arelian View Post
    Thanks for posting that. look at halo 4. . also does that pre-order also include pre-purchase?

    Also how mainstream do you want guild wars 2 to be? I mean its actually reaching people that have never touched an MMO in their lives. I think that's pretty mainstream. I also have realized from the people I have spoken to personally that have doubts, they are actually the mainstream MMOers, that have been burnt before.

    http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/good-for-noobs/

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    I'm assuming those numbers are just pre-order and not pre-purchase. I don't think NCSoft or ANet has disclosed those numbers as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arelian View Post
    I'm assuming those numbers are just pre-order and not pre-purchase. I don't think NCSoft or ANet has disclosed those numbers as of yet.
    Don't worry, I'm sure somebody who knows nothing about game servers can pull some numbers out of hat, do math, and come up with a number they say represents the number of people who bought GW2. I'm waiting for it, don't let me down internet idiots.