FFXIV 2.0 Random Speculation/Question Thread XII: End Of An Era - ASK YOUR QUESTIONS HERE!

**Ksandra** · 2012-07-08 21:24

ah ok, thanks! (cap is 174 right?) does that include stats from gear?

**Niiro** · 2012-07-09 00:18

No idea what cap you're referring to.

**Aratharn** · 2012-07-09 08:47

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I just saw someone turn an Ifrit's axe into materia... why would anyone do that? Is it guaranteed good materia or something?

Nope.

**Datonare** · 2012-07-09 12:08

So I was testing out my new +48 str gloves vs. my +68 atk gloves on dragoon with flame spear (153 dmg) and found my auto attack was significantly less when I was using the str gloves, but WS were a bit higher. Here were the stats I had when I was testing:

(STR: 309, PIE: 297, ATK: 653)
Average damage was 322.70 vs. Lv 50 Drubbers
Average damage was 268.84 vs. Lv 52 Halberdiers

(STR: 354, PIE: 300, ATK: 585)
Average damage was 296.05 vs. Lv 50 Drubbers for auto attacks
Average damage was 253.17 vs. Lv 52 Halberdiers

All damage was just auto attacks and I excluded crit damage in both cases.

Doomspike with the atk gloves was like 1219 and with the str gloves it was 1291, but that was only a one time use comparison.

Not sure there's a question in here, but I was surprised to see quite a difference in damage between the two gloves

**TacoTaru** · 2012-07-09 12:41

Well AA stat caps are fairly low (iirc they're so low you can cap the Ifrit stats without adding gear). I would assume that's why you're seeing the bump in damage when you're applying ATK is because that stat cap has already been met so adding any further STR does nothing outside of being converted into ATK. So from going from your ATK setup to your STR setup you lose about 38ATK after STR converts. You see the WS spike because you're getting closer (or hitting) the stat caps for WS which are higher than those for AA.

My knowledge of stat caps is fairly limited to what I've read in the Stat thread, but I'm pretty sure that's why you are seeing what you're seeing. I (think) it's also the reason people chase stat caps because of the significant difference hitting stat caps makes to your WS damage and how much of your DPS relies of WS damage.

Some please correct me if I'm off here.

**Niiro** · 2012-07-09 12:48

Since we haven't been graced with Kaeoko&Co.'s presence in the stat mechanics thread in so long, the specifics on stat caps are pretty vague.

It was implied that base damage determined damage and stat caps for AA and DPS did so for WS, but how these scaled relative to one another wasn't nailed down to any degree.

As for the above, just sounds like you're overcapped on STR and as far as the WS damage, 2 WSs a data set does not make. I would also ask how big your pool of data was for the AA numbers as well (more importantly, your min/max for each).

**Datonare** · 2012-07-09 13:31

AA test was 5 mobs each. I wasn't trying to provide a set of data, as I'm sure that would require thousands of hits and like Niiro said, min/max damage, but it's easy to see there's a noticeable difference with the two gear sets and that's all I was going for. I wasn't aware that AA and WS had different caps, that explains why I was confused at the increase in AA damage when using attack.

For what it's worth:
309 STR set: Min: 297 Max: 343 on drubbers. Min: 247 Max: 289 on halberdiers.
354 STR set: Min: 267 Max: 316 on drubbers. Min: 234 Max: 274 on halberdiers.

**Ragnell** · 2012-07-09 16:39

Why the fuck have I been getting this lately?

Spoiler: show

**Churchill** · 2012-07-09 17:10

the servers are shit

**Sup3rB4d** · 2012-07-10 05:40

Should I be maxing Mnd or Pie as my secondary stat on THM/BLM? Seems like the extra MP would be better considering I almost never get resisted, but then again I'm only level 30 and have no idea how much endgame stuff resists.

**Rocl** · 2012-07-10 05:46

Almost 100% certain MND is better. iirc the MP bonus from PIE allocation is like 1 PIE = 1 MP or something abysmal now.

**Kirin** · 2012-07-10 09:54

Starting to level thaumaturge and conjurer myself. From everything I've read:

conjurer: mnd then vit
thaumaturge: int then mnd

Yeah the MP Bonus from Pie is like 1=1.

Originally Posted by Ragnell

Why the fuck have I been getting this lately?

Spoiler: show

I actually got that last night, but it's because a thunderstorm apparently knocked out internet approx an hour after the storm had passed. Go figure.

**Insanecyclone** · 2012-07-10 11:00

How the fuck am I supposed to get the Temple Circlet? Was right at the fucking ! and the wolves killed me, adskjahsadiuh2iuhsadiufuckshitngalkj, I'm 45 btw.

**Waraji** · 2012-07-10 11:51

Don't suck. I solo'ed all my Jobs AF chests, although I was 50. Save for the dungeon ones of course.

**shepardG** · 2012-07-10 16:58

Can I mine Ironlake (targeting cobalt ore) at level 31 miner? Trying to find something other than the same 6 level 30 leves >< to get me to 35 quicker lol

**Insanecyclone** · 2012-07-10 17:00

Eh I just lucky with a passing by group that raised me at the ! this morning, have full af except body to do @50 now.

**Raldo** · 2012-07-10 17:25

Originally Posted by shepardG

Can I mine Ironlake (targeting cobalt ore) at level 31 miner? Trying to find something other than the same 6 level 30 leves >< to get me to 35 quicker lol

You can technically mine anywhere at any level, it'll just be an issue of whether your gathering is high enough to not break everything and whether your output makes all the running around worthwhile since you don't have the scanning abilities for Grade 5 yet.

Try it and see, I guess.

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2012-07-10 17:30

at level 31 you're probably better off at cedarwood.

**Toth** · 2012-07-10 22:36

Is there any reason to go after the 25k Serpent cudgel? INT +15, +15 enfeebling potency, and +60 ice potency. Combine that with the grid +10 magic accuracy shield. 15 less INT and 20 less mag accuracy than van. Is it just too clear the Van is better? I am so done with Garuda....

**Enygma55** · 2012-07-10 22:48

That serpent wep will only be useful for its enfeebling magic. The Van is just too good overall

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