Thread: FFXIV 2.0 Random Speculation/Question Thread XII: End Of An Era - ASK YOUR QUESTIONS HERE!    

BLM is always first, BRD always second, after that things get down to preferences mostly.

WHM - Some people like to kill early on cause he's squishy and heals the other moogles, but that just means the king will now be able to heal instead, and he will ignore hate temporarily to do it (he won't hate reset when running off to heal but he will move as he pleases). This can move him into a bad spot if he decides to Flare afterwards. Conversely, healing is one of the less dangerous things he can do so adding that to his repertoire isn't necessarily bad.

ARC - Deals mean damage and is one of the mogs that will hate reset, if you kill him early on you can at least be sure the tank is eating moogle eye shot (if they're kiting well they can outrun it usually) but it also means your healers need to be on the ball, nothing worse than petrify + EES just as the rest of the entourage catches up.

THF - doesn't hate reset, relatively harmless. As long as his pathing isn't terrible and ppl stay in the center his AoE MP drain shouldn't be that much of a problem (one reason you want more BRDs than BLMs, he can make BLMs utterly useless), fairly low priority on the kill list.

MRD and GLA are where a big choice comes in as one or the other will be the last kill after King.

GLA hate resets more than any other moogle so a lot of people like to kill him early on, if you choose to do so it's definitely a good idea to kill WHM before GLA as he will heal him to no end and it can seriously drag the fight out if your DDs aren't up to snuff (one of the reasons you should have at least 1 BLM, his DEF is extremely high). If you want to save him for last you need to have a good tank that can identify when his hate reset happens and act on it quickly and ppl need to pay attention and shadowbind/stonera(gravity) him when necessary, saving GLA for last means King dies much faster and it also means you can kill GLA without having to worry about the WHM/King healing him.

MRD is much more commonly chosen for last because GLA can run amok if people aren't paying attention and most would rather off him earlier on than deal with his constant resetting. Killing MRD before King means he's gonna be dishing out some serious damage but if you're not using melees it shouldn't be an issue with decent healers as the tank should be the only person taking damage (if anyone is within AoE when you're down to King + GLA, slap the shit out of them).

Can someone explain to me what the association between kill order and what the King does is then? I thought the King's actions had something to do with the last moogle you killed. Does he gain abilities for every moogle you've killed, or?

Originally Posted by Rocl

Worth mentioning the THF casts Break and the King gains access to that as well.

I'm pretty sure it's the BLM, it's been a while since I've done the fight but it doesn't even make sense for the THF to have magic much less break.

The only mob I ever recall seeing break from is the king, the BLM is always in his panic mode in the brief moments he's alive so I can't say I've ever seen him cast it but I certainly have no recollection of the THF ever casting it.

Originally Posted by solracht

THF casts break

Have to take your word for it, god knows I'm never going near that fight again.

So, now that the battle discussion has passed, does anyone know why you have to fight him, lore-wise? I rushed through the quest the first time, and I don't see any mention of -why- you're supposed to go fight him.

I'll admit, I usually just blast through the text when I'm flagging it again, but I may have to pay more attention if/when I do it again. I took a look at the journal and didn't see any mention of why you're fighting him.

Perhaps the wrong thread, but what would be a relatively painless way to trigger the "latent" effect on the Flame Sergeant's Tabard, for PUG/MNK? I was thinking just give up my earring, but I don't know what else to do. Also, is there a simple way I could farm seals by myself?

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Originally Posted by Raldo

So, now that the battle discussion has passed, does anyone know why you have to fight him, lore-wise? I rushed through the quest the first time, and I don't see any mention of -why- you're supposed to go fight him.

I'll admit, I usually just blast through the text when I'm flagging it again, but I may have to pay more attention if/when I do it again. I took a look at the journal and didn't see any mention of why you're fighting him.

I think it's just that the moogles kinda' had it with people (Garleans) fucking with their forest and take up arms against any threat. You being there just draws their attention and they attack you too... The King is essentially their primal which they summoning in defense of the Garleans invasion in the Black Shroud.

Not sure if this belongs in the gear question thread or here but I'm going to start here anyways. I recently finished leveling up my DRG to 50 and got a Giantsgall Trident from Skirmish. I'm wearing full AF and electrum accessories. What should I be trying to meld my trident with? I've seen conflicting suggestions so I really have no idea what's best. Some say to meld str/pie on weapon, some others say it's best to try to do that with armor melds and maybe do attack power or something on the weapon. If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be superb.