Feminism Thread

[Eurell]

Oh, so you were just full of shit and making things up. Got it.

'Not helping' in no way equals hurting. Those are two different things. And you making up whining as weak is just pulling shit out of your ass. You completely made up your own argument in place of his post and got offended at it, then tried the whole not even mad shit.

Try arguing with what people actually say, instead of what you think they might have meant.

[Celeste]

You are clearly the expert on cultural taboos(IE: ratting someone out, whining, complaining), so I will relent and tip my hat to you, sir. Good day. I am out of the discussion.

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[Eurell]

You made up an argument that was happening and got mad at it lol. Everyone in the past 2 pages has sad you're not making any sense. Lets throw out some funny faces though, that'll change everyone's mind.

[Ashmada]

WHAT THE FUCK, BRO? Why not be sincere and just say that women are weak and aren't the equals of men because of it? It's just shit like this...man.. We should be better than this as a civilization.

The kitchen. Go back to it.


Srsly, save some straw, you might need it in the winter (it is coming).
I agree, sexism exists (who wouldn't agree to that statement, especially given that you didn't include a geographical location?) and gender equality is an important goal to achieve.

Women blocked from some career paths? Major issue.
Women being paid less than men for equal work? Major issue.
Butts being pinched? Issue.
Sexist comments in online games? Issue.
Fanservice and booth babes? Tissue*.

How that equates to "WOMYN R WEAK", I know not.




*sorry.

Edit: i hate to use the word "whining" or accuse annoying of complaining, but come on, 5+ pages about booth babes? Major sandy vag.

[Acturus]

Edit: i hate to use the word "whining" or accuse annoying of complaining, but come on, 5+ pages about booth babes? Major sandy vag.

I keep clicking this thread hoping for booth babe pictures.

I am disappoint.

[Kuya]

When someone says that men are objectified too, and use men with rippling muscles and a six pack as an example, are they sure those images are sexualized for women and not just vessels through which men view themselves? Sometimes i get the feeling straight men don't actually know what the objectification of men is supposed to look like.

[Eurell]

When someone says that men are objectified too, and use men with rippling muscles and a six pack as an example, are they sure those images are sexualized for women and not just vessels through which men view themselves? Sometimes i get the feeling straight men don't actually know what the objectification of men is supposed to look like.

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but that's honestly a fair point. I think the problem with that though, is that the majority of men won't give a shit (and might actually enjoy) being objectified by women.

[RKenshin]

When someone says that men are objectified too, and use men with rippling muscles and a six pack as an example, are they sure those images are sexualized for women and not just vessels through which men view themselves? Sometimes i get the feeling straight men don't actually know what the objectification of men is supposed to look like.

I get what you mean, but at the same time this sounds like it starts to get into the foggy cloud of personal preferences category.

Not all men are 'sexualized' by booth babes types either (skinny/petite/make-up heavy or whatever). But, in general, it tends to be a pretty good bet to make; and I'd wager the same applies for using fit male models.

[archibaldcrane]

When someone says that men are objectified too, and use men with rippling muscles and a six pack as an example, are they sure those images are sexualized for women and not just vessels through which men view themselves? Sometimes i get the feeling straight men don't actually know what the objectification of men is supposed to look like.

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[archibaldcrane]

But let's be real here, most gamer nerds don't have the self-confidence to actually objectify a beautiful booth babe at a conference - they're so pathetic that they just want that pretty girl over there to talk to them and validate their existence.

[Kuya]

If we use a loose definition of objectification, then all models are objectified. If we restrict it to a sexual context, then where and how the models are used starts being important. For example, a male model being used to sell underwear to men, as opposed to a male model being used as sexual bait to get women to buy things. Perhaps because of the nature of how female sexuality exists right now, it's hard to objectify men. It's rare to see commercials using scantily clad men to sell stuff to women, in fact, it's more likely that women models would be used to sell stuff to women.

Selling stuff to gay men and bisexuals is another matter entirely though.

[Kuya]

http://mostlyfilm.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=225&h=340
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Ryan Gosling is so boring now that women like him. It's all gentleman this, or sensible guy that. W/e

Call me when he's shoving dicks down his gullet

[RKenshin]

If we use a loose definition of objectification, then all models are objectified. If we restrict it to a sexual context, then where and how the models are used starts being important. For example, a male model being used to sell underwear to men, as opposed to a male model being used as sexual bait to get women to buy things. Perhaps because of the nature of how female sexuality exists right now, it's hard to objectify men. It's rare to see commercials using scantily clad men to sell stuff to women, in fact, it's more likely that women models would be used to sell stuff to women.

Selling stuff to gay men and bisexuals is another matter entirely though.

All I can think of is this video:


Though, yeah, it is pretty uncommon. I think.

[Eurell]

Haha, I just heard about that commercial yesterday because one million moms is boycotting liquid plumber lol.

[Kuya]

All I can think of is this video:


Though, yeah, it is pretty uncommon. I think.

Now that's what i call progress. Although compared to commercials for men, it's pretty tame.

[Acturus]

But let's be real here, most gamer nerds don't have the self-confidence to actually objectify a beautiful booth babe at a conference - they're so pathetic that they just want that pretty girl over there to talk to them and validate their existence.

I have a good friend who's had a booth at PAX and PAX East in the last year, and his wife (who goes with him to these things and could be a booth babe if she wanted to) explained how awkward the whole interaction was. She had a hard time getting two words out of passersby, and she was in business-casual clothes the whole time. She said the booth babes stood around looking bored and uncomfortable carrying trays full of energy drinks because no one would approach them.

[BaneTheBrawler]

Sounds pretty typical for a room full of gamers, executives who aren't rich/famous/douchey enough to buy immunity, and journalists.

[Lucavi]

Sounds extremely typical. Should have sent the booth babes to jersey shore or something if they wanted people to actually approach them. Most neckbeards can't get out of their chair, let alone speak to a woman who isn't working the drive-through line at the local taco bell.

[Ksandra]

It's rare to see commercials using scantily clad men to sell stuff to women, in fact, it's more likely that women models would be used to sell stuff to women.

makes me wonder which came first the chicken or the egg kind of thing. There is the stereotype/trend that guys don't look at other guys and say "he's hot" but girls can/will judge other girls. I think women tend to be rather competitive about other women's looks, which is probably why showing a hot girl is a better seller for woman than a hot guy in a commercial. Though I don't know if that's because women are like that or commercials taught us to be that way.

[Lucavi]

Maybe its just that women think unnecessary, destructive things too often? I mean guys think unnecessary things all the time, but ours aren't self-destructive. We see a dude that looks great and are like "I should get back to the gym" or "man he probably pounds that pussy", but that's as far as it goes. We don't get jealous, we don't get catty, we don't start crying and flipping out and worrying that we're not good enough.

I don't know if that can be changed. Is it biological, instinctual, or is socially-manufactured and accepted because that's just the way its always been?