2012 NHL Offseason Thread: ROCK OUT WITH YOUR LOCKOUT

[Palin]

Palin with suffer, my child. Have no fear of that.

So far so good.

[Palin]

Palin gets one chance to escape a ban if no deal is made. By answering the following question.


What happened to the Legio IX Hispana?

[Palin]

Some interesting timelines, today was pretty much the day Bettman's proposed "two week moratorium" would have expired. A few sources have said that the NHL all along was giving Bettman until 12/1 to see what he could do, then the owners would take over. Another report comes out that the the NHL has a deal with its sponser to get 100% revenue if they play more than 60 games, but only 75% between 30-60 games.

It's becoming more and more obvious that the NHL had a date on the calendar in which they were will to play hardball until. After that the concessions come rolling, and a deal gets made.

[Bregor]

@ngreenberg

"no moderation in league’s demands, & hope raised by Tuesday’s owners/players meeting was irrational exuberance" http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/nhlblo...#axzz2ED5xEtD7 …

lol

[Palin]

lol

Bullshit. Both sides are trying to temper expectations in case things go south. Doesn't mean it's a lie.

[Bregor]

Bullshit. Both sides are trying to temper expectations in case things go south. Doesn't mean it's a lie.

Urge to ban..... RISING......

[Palin]

I AM THE VOICE OF OPTIMISM.



YOU CANNOT BAN WHAT IS INSIDE YOU!

[BadKarma]

Also it's the New York post lol

[Selamis]

Somewhere, Chris Pronger sits silently in a dark room, plotting his next move, awaiting news of the lockout lifted.



























And drooling on himself.

[Bregor]

Somewhere, Chris Pronger sits silently in a dark room, plotting his next move, awaiting news of the lockout lifted.

And drooling on himself.

[BadKarma]

Someone cue up Sam Rosen shouting the waiting is over

[Selamis]

Stop it, stop saying vague things that can be viewed as false hope for this.

[Cail]

ban. do it.

[Bregor]

SOON

[Selamis]

^ lol

[Bregor]

Also it's the New York post lol

How's the Edmonton Journal?

NHL Lockout: It’s not over yet, and there are reasons to be worried about current talks

Despite the prevailing “cautious optimism” coming out of recent talks between individual players and owners, many reasons remain to be concerned about the state of negotiations between the league and the NHLPA.

One of the most obvious is the extreme care being taken by everybody involved. NHL governors were tight-lipped after meeting this morning, and TSN’s Bob McKenzie revealed that for the most part they are still in the dark about specifics in talks between individual players and owners:

Negotiations between NHL-NHLPA are at such sensitive stage NHL govs weren’t even given specifics from yesterday’s session at today’s BofG.

Gary Bettman’s comments to the media following the meeting were so brief as to be comical. He gave no specifics of any kind on either the meeting with league governors or the negotiations, and took no questions. The entirety of his comments can be boiled down to ‘we’re happy that people are talking.’

Both the non-update to the Board of Governors and the silence on both sides are ‘walking on eggshells’ moves. Many are taking the silence as a positive sign, and certainly it’s preferable to the two sides sniping at each other in the press; however it could just as easily be a sign that both sides feel any misunderstood (or worse, correctly understood) statement could de-rail negotiations. This isn’t the first time the two sides have eschewed public statements in favour of quiet negotiation, and on previous occasions they failed to come to an agreement.

There’s more, though.

Neither side has handed over a proposal; the last one we’ve seen was from the NHLPA. Players were optimistic they were taking a significant step, the league rejected it, and talks hit the lowest point they’ve reached to date. An actual proposal from one side gaining traction with the other is a significant hurdle to overcome, and they haven’t managed it yet.

Additionally, while negotiations are being seemingly routed through moderates on both sides (there’s been much talk of the ‘Pittsburgh bridge’ between owner Ron Burkle and player Sidney Crosby) Donald Fehr and Gary Bettman are still conferring with their people outside of the meeting room. At some point, they will re-enter negotiations. The fact neither is part of the process yet reinforces the ideas that a) talks remain delicate and b) neither side is making major headway on the most significant issues in this discussion. It’s possible that players and owners are taking firm positions on things like how to move from 57 percent to 50 percent of hockey-related revenue and contractual obligations; it seems more likely that there’s still a lot of grey in the discussion. As we’ve seen in this dispute, the devil can be in the details.

Then there are reports like this one from the New York Post’s Mark Everson. An excerpt:

The word that came out of today’s NHL Board of Governors meeting is that optimism is overblown for a quick end to Owners’ Lockout III.

One of the hard-liners insisted there has been no moderation in the league’s demands, and indicated that hope raised by Tuesday’s owners/players meeting was irrational exuberance.

Governors were reluctant to comment on their Midtown meeting Wednesday, fearing hefty league fines, and while most maintained a generally sunny outlook, it is believed that the 10 hours of talk Tuesday did not deal in specifics on the key issue of the split of revenue.

Craig Adams, one of the Penguins representatives who has been in the room for the current set of talks, said nice things about Burkle and Crosby, but remained ambivalent on the state of talks. Penguins beat reporter Dave Molinari quoted Adams’ take:

I’m done trying to be optimistic or pessimistic or predict where (talks) are going.

Everybody wants to see a deal made, and the fact is that there are numerous reasons for both sides to be eager to get back on the ice. The league’s relationships has been damaged by this lockout – not just with fans, who they seem to be unconcerned about, but also with sponsors and TV partners, who really matter to owners. Players have lost huge chunks of this year’s pay. Both sides are hurt by this battle.

But all those things have been true for weeks, if not months, now. We are getting down to crunch time, but that didn’t end the 2004-05 lockout and previous “pressure points” are in the rearview mirror. The delicacy of current negotiations, the absence of the lead negotiators on either side from the room, and the lack of detail being given even to people like NHL owners suggest that there needs to be a heavy emphasis on the “caution” in the current “cautious optimism.”

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...current-talks/

[Cail]

that gif lol

[Keisuke88]

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...s-to-get-ready

Apparently Bettman is ready to negotiate. About time, took him long enough.

[vagus]

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/ey...s-to-get-ready

Apparently Bettman is ready to negotiate. About time, took him long enough.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8pKgDm9-eJ...garten_cop.jpg

WHO ARE YOU? Phoenix fan?

It's all over twitter players are being asked to return to North America. God, i need to stop digging for tiny bits of information. Fuck you NHL.

Sidenote : I need to change my avatar. -.-

[Deader2818]

I wonder how many times i'll get banned if there is a season this year.