Mystic Statistics: Results for the Eleventh Vana'diel Census (07/04/2012)

[NynJa]

And yet the largest numbers is the first category of "Uncomplete/ Chapter 1." People may do certain fights a lot but overall I would look at this data and say "wow, 40% of the entire population hasn't even beat chapter 1 yet, something must be wrong."

Thats people who signed up for voidwatch and let stones build up, but never did it and quit...theres atleast 1 shout every day for people who want to do the questlines. Theres no reason for anyone these days whos actually doing VW to not be on "Uncomplete/ Chapter 1"

I doubt any shouters are gonna keep anyone who says "sorry gotta run to zone, I didnt do the fights before" because theyre probably gonna assume this guy doesnt have any atmacites...and good luck pulling that on Bismarck (not that anyone does it...but you get what I'm sayin)

[Chamaan]

Proud to be part of the Pup 1.6%. Occupy Al Zhabi!

[SephYuyX]

The need a second version of this where they tally from release date up until current.

[Jem]

Christ, all those bandwagon Ragna's. Kinda glad I rarely log in nowadays as it would annoy the piss out of me.

EDIT: There was only 31 when I made mine iirc and it wasn't ages ago either >_>

[bungiefan]

So many 0s on the census for things achieved. Many 0s on lv99 weapons, and for crafts at 110. Take the hint SE, people aren't doing that content because it's unreasonable.

[Shenrien]

>_> That was all during a 2 week period in march that they took down all the information, not gathered up over a year. If people still say Arch DL is unreasonable now they might as well give up hope of even making a relic/mythic/emp leveling a craft, ect.

[macross]

I'm not sure I want to buy alex now, with what they said hehe. Could become very cheap cheap if they are curious about the numbers next year after the changes play out.

[Yugl]

What linkshell is this?:

(for relics owned)


168 members on Odin and they are near the top of the list for everything linkshell related. Mythics, Empyreans, Relics, total gil..

Probably Procthered.

[NynJa]

If people still say Arch DL is unreasonable now they might as well give up hope of even making a relic/mythic/emp leveling a craft, ect.

Hey gender bender (is this acceptable? considering the epic lulz thread, I'm assuming yes), it has nothing to do with unreasonable, its the fact the previous magian trials were "team up or work solo, but everyone can accomplish goals without competition" to "get 10 friends to do shit for you for 0 reward", on a fight that can make you lose regardless of what you do.

If it were "kill ADL 5 (or even 10) times with weapon equipped", majority of complaints go away.

[Diomer]

Hey gender bender, it has nothing to do with unreasonable, its the fact the previous magian trials were "team up or work solo, but everyone can accomplish goals without competition" to "get 10 friends to do shit for you for 0 reward", on a fight that can make you lose regardless of what you do.

If it were "kill ADL 5 (or even 10) times with weapon equipped", majority of complaints go away.

I doubt that the majority of complaints would go away anyway unless they're coming from people who aren't actually going to get a 99 relic anyway; who wants to bring a BST, PLD, RNG, etc, or any of those jobs to ADL? Any competent LS had and has no problem clearing their members of 99 relics anyway; I know we didn't.

[Chamaan]

In a sane world the 99 relic trial would've been x#-ADL kills and Umbral would've been just for the glow version. But this isn't a sane world.

[Khajit]

Hey gender bender, it has nothing to do with unreasonable, its the fact the previous magian trials were "team up or work solo, but everyone can accomplish goals without competition" to "get 10 friends to do shit for you for 0 reward", on a fight that can make you lose regardless of what you do.

If it were "kill ADL 5 (or even 10) times with weapon equipped", majority of complaints go away.

more like negative reward really since the initial estimates had the people involved losing nearly an entire lv 75 relic weapon worth of currency helping out.

[NynJa]

I doubt that the majority of complaints would go away anyway unless they're coming from people who aren't actually going to get a 99 relic anyway; who wants to bring a BST, PLD, RNG, etc, or any of those jobs to ADL? Any competent LS had and has no problem clearing their members of 99 relics anyway; I know we didn't.

With all due respect, you have a LS who, for whatever reason, pretty much do whatever you say. I had eventually done the legwork to see who I have that wants to kill ADL for their relics, but then I realized I'd be doing ADL for the next year...just to finish the initial estimates, because I know that when I start to reach the end of the line:
"hi I just finished my *weapon*"
"hey I finished one too, can I get more marrows"
...
and so on...


but considering ADL can be reliably killed with ~8-10, theres room for people to be on shitty jobs if it went the "kill ADL" route.

[Kaisha]

more like negative reward really since the initial estimates had the people involved losing nearly an entire lv 75 relic weapon worth of currency helping out.

Which is why you have an LS static and do a marrow rotatation so everyone involved gets 5 in the end to use however they please.

[NynJa]

Because people wont really pull the "sorry guys I have a dentist apt (on a sunday afternoon)" excuses once they get their marrows

[Shenrien]

Hey gender bender (is this acceptable? considering the epic lulz thread, I'm assuming yes), it has nothing to do with unreasonable, its the fact the previous magian trials were "team up or work solo, but everyone can accomplish goals without competition" to "get 10 friends to do shit for you for 0 reward", on a fight that can make you lose regardless of what you do.

If it were "kill ADL 5 (or even 10) times with weapon equipped", majority of complaints go away.

Could do it with 5 and a mule, reliably? Not really but you could still pull it off. and With majority of the community that I played with, having access to one or more mules being the norm, that number could easily go up and fill the other slots that you would want, of course killing one a day isn't as efficient as the 5+ an end game shell could pump out.

As for the whole Get 10 friends and do shit for 0 reward, you could just as easily go about for each marrow the relic owner takes, the group takes one to sell / split, that way everyone gets something out of it and if someone is going to pull the "I can't go because the Earth is going to explode tonight." Then in the end it's just less they make in Gil, and as there are currently tasks that people wish to fulfill that requires a decent chunk of gil, if they are those kind of people that pursue 110 crafts, or all subs to 70, or even putting the funds into a relic themselves its just hurting them.

[Kaisha]

Because people wont really pull the "sorry guys I have a dentist apt (on a sunday afternoon)" excuses once they get their marrows

Which is why you do one marrow per person until all get 5/5 throughout the cycle.

[Khamsin]

more like negative reward really since the initial estimates had the people involved losing nearly an entire lv 75 relic weapon worth of currency helping out.

You can get 5 marrows in one (or two, if unlucky) dynamis runs. I don't know what kind of currency you pull in when you farm, but I highly doubt everyone helping out would lose 15,000 currency each in those one or two runs.

[NynJa]

initial estimates...being you needed 16-18 people/chars all reliant on 2hr's. Obviously as people started doing the fight, they found out how to do it with less and more efficiently.

[Draylo]

Christ, all those bandwagon Ragna's. Kinda glad I rarely log in nowadays as it would annoy the piss out of me.

EDIT: There was only 31 when I made mine iirc and it wasn't ages ago either >_>

Why would that annoy you?