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  1. #181
    Ridill
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
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    Bahamut

    No it's an or. I just tested it yesterday and confirmed it a few posts up. Also chat will beat magian with weather if you using +affinity atmas (maybe atmacite too not sure)

  2. #182
    Impossiblu
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
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    10,445
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    FFXIV Character
    Prothescar Centursa
    FFXIV Server
    Balmung
    FFXI Server
    Valefor

    No, atmacite are too impotent. You need about 40 affinity before prism staff is superior.

    Copypasta of evidence that they can be superior from somewhere else, just in case there's for some reason doubt, because I cba to do it again

    Spoiler: show
    Player
    220INT
    150MAB
    60% Thunder Affinity

    Monster
    100INT
    0MDB
    0MDT

    magian dINT = 220 - 100 = 120
    prism dINT = 225 - 100 = 125

    magian D = 120 * 2.2997 + 874 = 1149
    prism D = 125 * 2.2997 + 874 = 1161



    Magian Staff

    1149 * (1.35 + 0.6) = 2240 (forgot if this caps)

    2240 * 1.33 = 2979

    4507 * 2.5 = 7447




    HQ Prism (if cap)

    1161 * 1.15 = 1335

    1335 * 1.6 = 2136

    2136 * 1.4 = 2990

    2990 * 2.5 = 7475



    HQ Prism (no cap)

    1161 * 1.15 = 1335

    1321 * 1.6 = 2136

    2136 * 1.43 = 3054

    3054 * 2.5 = 7635


    In this scenario it comes to effectively:

    1.4 * 1.15 * 1.6 = 2.576

    vs.

    1.3 * 1.95 = 2.535



    OR



    1.3 * 1.15 * 1.6 = 2.392

    1.2 * 1.95 = 2.34

  3. #183
    Ridill
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
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    Bahamut

    Yeah I was on phone so couldn't really do the math to figure the breaking point (especially if I wanted to count pesky int which means figuring it out for specific spells). Of course that also depends on if you have day to as that will lower chat's advantage. I'm waiting for someone to get mab on theres thought (or for prices to come down so I can augment more myself)

  4. #184
    Relic Horn
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
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    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Leviathan

    There's a screenshot of MAB+2, so far

  5. #185
    Ridill
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
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    23,594
    BG Level
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    Bahamut

    Sure beats my 14 light resist...

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