07/23/2012 Update- Dat Mining Discussion

**SephYuyX** · 2012-07-23 15:07

Originally Posted by Prothescar

preliminary testing indicates that iridescence adds 10% to weather bonus and makes weather proc guaranteed... and with obi on there's no further damage difference... testing more, but it looks like this staff combines obis AND staves

Ehhh.. as someone who got all 8 obi's I feel shortchanged, but whatever, another few inv spaces saved (still need obis that you have magian for).

**Zirael** · 2012-07-23 15:10

SE tease, 1 year too early tho.

**Brehn** · 2012-07-23 15:13

My WW is 60 so less than that.

**diasetsu** · 2012-07-23 15:19

It's novice WW, enthusiast says apprentice synergy/novice wood

**Martel** · 2012-07-23 15:20

Originally Posted by Prothescar

preliminary testing indicates that iridescence adds 10% to weather bonus and makes weather proc guaranteed... and with obi on there's no further damage difference... testing more, but it looks like this staff combines obis AND staves

Considering i just got a non-weather proc with hailstorm+HQ staff, i'm gonna say no on the auto weather proc.

**Slycer** · 2012-07-23 15:22

Originally Posted by Septimus

Honestly, I don't see them ever updating any of the existing Magian weapons again.

I don't really see why not. It wouldn't be a step-change boost like most previous ones, but something minor. Another 2% on casting time, a couple INT, a few enmity-, whatever. Something to keep the grind alive. When the cap was still 75, there were at least two or three updates that saw slight increases in DMG ratings and stuff on weapons without raising the level past 75.

**Prothescar** · 2012-07-23 15:23

Ok, HQ Prism Staff, so far:

*+0.1 to day/weather multiplier
*Does not appear to stack with the damage bonus from obi
*Does not force a weather proc

But something's fishy about the numbers when adding in other factors, such as double weather or weather and day. Still testing.

**Martel** · 2012-07-23 15:24

I will second the +10% to weather bonus. going from 1525 to 1830 on naked sch/rdm with hailstorm up.

**Alistaire** · 2012-07-23 15:26

And no negative side like obi?

**dasva** · 2012-07-23 15:30

So it gives another 10% on top of the normal day/weather? That would make obis still useful no?

**Slycer** · 2012-07-23 15:30

Originally Posted by Alistaire

And no negative side like obi?

I'm guessing if it's forcing a positive weather proc on the associated spell, it's also going to force a negative weather proc on the descendant spell.

Edit: never mind, it's not forcing a proc apparently.

**Slycer** · 2012-07-23 15:31

Originally Posted by dasva

So it gives another 10% on top of the normal day/weather? That would make obis still useful no?

Yeah, if it's not forcing a proc, then obis + chatoyant staff + twilight cape + weather/day would be a pretty powerful nuking combo.

**Prothescar** · 2012-07-23 15:32

It seems to straight up replace obi damage bonus, but you still need obi to force the procs... it's a confusing thing and doesn't seem too useful so far if you already have obis. It also seems to do something strange with damage calculation that I can't pinpoint

**Slycer** · 2012-07-23 15:33

Originally Posted by Prothescar

It seems to straight up replace obi damage bonus, but you still need obi to force the procs... it's a confusing thing and doesn't seem too useful so far if you already have obis. It also seems to do something strange with damage calculation that I can't pinpoint

Obi's are just guaranteed weather/day bonus, if this adds a further 10% to the bonus itself (similar to what Twilight Cape does with the 5%), wouldn't the combo be good?

**Prothescar** · 2012-07-23 15:35

For some reason derping and thought obis also added 10%, so yes this would be a straight bonus. I'm going to conclude that Iridescence adds 10% to weather and day bonus. The errors in damage were mine, not the staff's.

**Michelob** · 2012-07-23 15:35

Assuming it is still subject to the day/weather damage increase cap, though... yeah?

**dasva** · 2012-07-23 15:36

Well martel showed a 20% boost in dmg which is more than just obi unless he had day in there too? That would make it useful. If it's still only 10% with it and doesn't force that kinda means it doesn't do anything seeing as you can get that randomly anyways...

Edit: ah looks like that was cleared up

**Prothescar** · 2012-07-23 15:37

Originally Posted by Michelob

Assuming it is still subject to the day/weather damage increase cap, though... yeah?

Haven't tested that yet but within reason I would assume so.

**Slycer** · 2012-07-23 15:38

Originally Posted by Prothescar

For some reason derping and thought obis also added 10%, so yes this would be a straight bonus. I'm going to conclude that Iridescence adds 10% to weather and day bonus. The errors in damage were mine, not the staff's.

So basically if you're casting in the correct weather with Obi and the new staff, you're getting a staff multiplier of 1.15 and a weather (or day) multiplier of 1.2 = ~1.38. With obi and magians staff, you'd have a staff of 1.35 and weather of 1.1 = ~1.485. Closes the 15%-35% gap significantly if you nuke with the correct weather/day.

What happens if you align both weather and day - does it add 10% to each of them? If it did, it would actually overpower magians staves in that particular case... (edit: unless above post is true and day/weather cap remains at 1.35).

**dasva** · 2012-07-23 15:40

Also to test does it count as staff bonus or elemental affinity dmg? If it's still staff bonus fuck yeah in situations where you are getting other sources of elemental affinity

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