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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Kirllin did shit in DBZ

    Radditz : He wasn't there
    Sayains : iirc he never fought he just checked on Gohan (or he did fight Vegeta a lil)
    Namek : got owned by frieza
    Androids Was suppose to destroy #18 but choked
    Cell, that disk failure + getting owned by mini cells.
    Buu didnt do shit either

    At least tien fought some Saibaman iirc
    If you're talking about who's more useful and actually did shit then Krillin did far more than Tien did, your list indicates that much.

    Comparing who's stronger is fairer at least.

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    That is true

    Got none of the Human actually did shit in DBZ (well until SSJ appeareD)

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    After three pages of debating Krillin and Tien I feel I must ask. Is Tien even humen?

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    Think so. I remember some explanation in Dragonball that he "achieved" his third eye through some Buddhist method.

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    Tenshinhan
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    Born in the year Age 733. Height: 187 cm, Weight: 75 kg. He aspired to become an assassin, and studied the martial arts under Tsuru-sennin. However, he was influenced by Kame-sennin and Goku when he met them at the 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai, and left Tsuru-sennin. He participated in numerous battles with Goku. When his fellow disciple Chaozu died, he trained intensively to learn the Mafuuba so that he could fight Piccolo Daimao. When Chaozu self-destructed in the battle with Nappa, he fired the Kikoho to avenge him, but used up all his power and died. After training under Kaio, he was revived through Porunga. After the battle with Cell, he set off with Chaozu on a journey of training, and during the battle with Majin Buu he saved his comrade from danger.
    First Appears

    Chapter 113
    Characteristics

    As a descendent of the alien Three-Eyed People, he has physical idiosyncrasies that can't be considered that of an Earthling, such as splitting into four people, and growing arms from his shoulders. He's a rare pure martial artist, who only wishes to get stronger. (Daizenshuu 2, p.130 / Daizenshuu 4, p.69)
    Battles

    He tried to fight Piccolo Daimao, but had a difficult fight against Drum, who Daimao gave birth to, and was absolutely no match for Piccolo Daimao himself. He fought numerous enemies, such as Nappa, Artificial Human No. 19, second-form Cell, and the Cell Juniors, but always lost.
    Techniques

    Shishin no Ken, Taiyo-ken, Kikoho, Shiyo-ken, Shin-Kikoho, etc.
    Budoukai

    He won the 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai, and lost in the semi-finals at the 23rd. (Daizenshuu 4, p.121-122)
    Anime

    He first met Goku in Mentanki Village. Tenshinhan and Chaozu used the monster Inoshikacho to trick the villagers out of money (Daizenshuu 3, p.72). He used the Mafuuba during the battle with the original Piccolo, but failed.
    Third eye can easily be explained as "Spiritual Enlightenment" ala Buddhist method. But he was also quite a dick and a villain. But how would you explain a human growing extra arms and cloning himself.

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    Re: Dragon Ball Z (2013 movie)

    Quote Originally Posted by Null View Post
    Third eye can easily be explained as "Spiritual Enlightenment" ala Buddhist method. But he was also quite a dick and a villain. But how would you explain a human growing extra arms and cloning himself.
    Not sure how you can explain a human throwing energy discs either but I guess I see your point.

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    More or less would go along with with the idea of martial arts training and chi.

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    The same way you explain Krillin doing it lol. But that part was probably filler during the Nappa fight.

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    The wiki is useful for some things, but it's entirely shit for these reasons in my opinion:

    1. Putting in shit no one cares about; a lot of move names got spawned due to the new generation DBZ games. So they decided to incorporate these into the articles for the anime, resulting in shit like:

    Perfect Cell is pleased when Gohan reaches this form, but Gohan's first action is mercilessly killing off the smaller Cell Juniors, which he defeats in a single hit each. The already astounded Z Warriors, with the exception of the satisfied Goku, are amazed as Gohan and Perfect Cell began to battle, with Gohan dominating the powerful android. Even after Cell, to everyone's surprise and horror, powers up to maximum (a power deemed "unfathomable" by the Z Fighters) and punches Gohan hard in the face, Gohan is barely fazed at all. With just two punches, Gohan almost incapacitates Cell completely. Perfect Cell knows he is no match against Gohan.
    It's petty, I know. But I think it's just too extreme of a detail to go into.

    2. In the DBZ Movies they attempt to squeeze each movie into the anime/manga timeline and come up with all sorts of reasons for doing so. While it's nice to imagine and all, the way they lay it out is .... too autistic for my taste.

    3. Sometimes articles are written like ... from a scholar's point of view. I think that's the correct word. So for Vegeta, he would be referred to randomly in any given article:

    The prince of all saiyans
    The saiyan prince
    The young saiyan prince
    The saiyan
    The super saiyan

    etc. It's not consistent and it does my head in.

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    On this other forum I frequent, no one seems to have a point it out on here but they labelled this new villain "Anubis". Speculation is that this is the first enemy and the "master" looking character is "the boss" lol. Someone also called it a bunny. But man it sure looks stupid.

    I however, already detailed on the Team Four Star thread about the potential horrors before the poster was shown:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    This Bardock Special movie is very good, and I love the voice they used/given to Bardock. So cocky and badass.

    The original movie itself though, even if it's fan based, sucked. I do not like any of the recent Dragonball work released. If it's not rehashes of something and if it does happen to be some form of official material, the villains look absolutely stupid. At least Vegeta, Freeza, Cell and Buu had some sort of threatening feel to them. It's times like this I somewhat dread what villain they will come up with for the "Movie 14" ...
    Garlic Jr was cool
    Dr Wheeler was more or less original
    Turles = lol ... I didn't like this movie, it's utterly depressing
    Lord Slug = quite lol, a rehash of King Piccolo I suppose
    Cooler = pretty good. Didn't mind it as much, you knew he'd be a badass given what Freeza's done. And Metal Cooler was a nice concept too.
    Broli = we all know where he stands
    Brojack = maybe quite lol ... he seemed stone
    Janemba = a minor mirror of Fat Buu > Super/Kid Buu status in terms of mentality
    Movie 13 = a good dramatic movie, a completely different take of the usual dbz universe
    Movie 14 = wtf .... lol

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    Haven't the movies always been their own canon as they rarely refer to the main series. They're all one-shot adventures that the main series never(?) touches upon.

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    Yeah, the only movie that can even fit into the storyline is Dead zone I think. The specials do as well (Bardock and Future Trunks). But every other movie makes 0 sense when you try to see when it would happen.

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    Dead Zone took place before Raddtiz lands on earth right?

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    Could take place before or after but the first episode of Z makes it seem like they never met in the movie.

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    Screw timelines.

    Anyway:

    http://www.jefusion.com/2012/11/one-...-revealed.html

    One Piece author Eiichiro Oda, and Dragon Ball Z author Akira Toriyama drew a collaborative illustration for the advance tickets of each respective films, “One Piece Film Z” and “Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods”.

    The advance ticket costs 2,600 yen (about US$32), and only have a limited number of 8,989 pieces. Participating theaters will start offering the limited-edition "Super Collabo Ticket" sets starting November 23rd.



    One Piece Film Z will be set after the events on the Fishman Island Arc, hence the first movie taking place in the New World part of the Grand Line. The film features the antagonist Z, described as Luffy and the Straw Hat pirate crew's "strongest enemy yet." Premieres December 15th.

    Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods took place during the manga's "lost decade", after the final battle against Majin-Buu (Chapter 517: A Happy Ending... And Then...), and before the 10 year timeskip (Chapter 518: 10 Years After). Premieres March 30th.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NPb_K7NhZc...bz-collab2.jpg

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    Re: Dragon Ball Z (2013 movie)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ker View Post
    Apparently this is the new Dragon Balls Z Movie Poster

    Enough of the Krillin versus Tien debate. Deep down ya'll know he is the hardest human after seeing his tri-beam assault against semi-Perfect cell.

    Why isn't anyone discussing why Goku is fighting some Egyptian, Mummies Alive-looking, anorexic purple rabbit!? I mean seriously wtf. This is DBZ. Where are the muscles?
    And this is titled battle of the gods. It was bad enough seeing how swiftly the actual gods(kais) had their shit handed to them compared to Super Saiyans but now I have to see anthropomorphic barn yard friends hand Goku and co. their shit.

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    I think we pretty much determined it's shit so we moved on to somewhat more off topic things.

    Until we see any of it no one else can talk much about it. My prediction still stands:

    Anubis fights Goku and co, nearly wins, but loses
    Goku and co finds anubis's boss (that woman in the background)
    Something prevents Goku from entering the fight right away
    Everyone else gets the living shit beat out of them
    Goku arrives, fights her, gets beat up to tell as well (and not land a single hit)
    Everyone channels energy for Goku for X attack (one shotter, or a spirit bomb, etc)
    win

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    Anubis meets the Trix rabbit. I'm more interested in why Gohan is a super sayain without exploding.

    My prediction: everyone gives Goku energy for X attack. Always.

    Would be nice to have Vegeta blow the shit out of the boss, or Piccolo, but meh.

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    To be honest I think they didn't really care at this point, and I do not think it will be addressed (unless between now and then fans REALLY heckle at them). You can maybe consider that due to his lack of training over the years (1-10) he weakened and lost that form.

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    It can't be more than a year or two. Trunks and Goten don't look they've aged a day.

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