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    That made me lose some interest in it. The story is less than 19hours long? And if you're slow, you'll have to replay the entire game?

    I duno, I'll probably still buy it, hopefully it won't be as bad as it sounds.

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    I'll still download it on day 1, for the story, but the gameplay just seems awful.

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    that puts the main story at ~20hrs if you actually have to hit the end of the 13 days.. but that said, its about the same as a quick playthrough of FF13-2 (provided you know what you're doing), and probably without the cutscenes too..

    if it can offer replay value on that level.. i'd definitely look into playing it. pretty sure there'll be a whole bunch of optionals or forks along the way that will add to the replay value.

    anyway.. what happened to the Sept 4 new details thing on the NA website?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor View Post
    The story is less than 19hours long? And if you're slow, you'll have to replay the entire game?
    It's meant to be played multiple times like Majora’s Mask. There is only one ending, but you can't get 100% through a single play-though.

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    If you're unsure how you feel about this type of replay-focused/time-constrained mechanic, I recommend going and playing Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. It's a pretty polarizing concept. Most players will, without doubt, end up with some premature game-overs... but the ability to retain all or some items/equipment/levels/etc. and start over gives a nice sense of progression as you quickly learn how to streamline your actions (without fucking about unnecessarily) and it's always fun to go back and plow through lower-level content after your character has developed some.

    Ideally, repeated play-throughs should unlock both higher-level content and more story/lore. The latter is how Dragon Quarter did it. With each subsequent play-through, most cutscenes had additional scenes added to them, further unlocking the mysteries behind the characters and events that weren't entirely brought to light the first time(s) around.

    For the record, I enjoyed Dragon Quarter (the entire game was on a very slow count-down that only dangerously sped up while using your ultimate attacks in battle) while I really hated Majora's Mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    its about the same as a quick playthrough of FF13-2 (provided you know what you're doing), and probably without the cutscenes too..
    This is kind of meaningless. You can beat 13-2 in 4-5 hours without much difficulty if you know what you're doing. A first playthrough should be much, much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    This is kind of meaningless. You can beat 13-2 in 4-5 hours without much difficulty if you know what you're doing. A first playthrough should be much, much longer.
    It's an Action RPG, most of them do not last this long including KH and they have very little replay value other than higher difficulty settings.

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    But although it's an action RPG they really are making it sound like a lot of things, especially the people (NPCs) would be interactive (world drive, yada yada). I would've thought on that basis alone it would fill up another 20-30 or even more hours of gameplay.

    I mean, I suppose it's not right to compare it to Skyrim but what's a speedrun time for Skyrim? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    but what's a speedrun time for Skyrim? lol
    1:16, i believe.

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    That's fast! XD. When I was reading a review on a magazine here it said something about "playing for 50 hours and barely scratching the surface" so I presumed it was a pretty deep game.

    But yeh, before I read about the "secret/private alpha build" and the interview from Adriansang, here's what I imagined:

    A fully interactive (again, emphasis on World Driven, as they keep doing it) world where most interactions if not all you do has some form of consequence -- so here I feel it's a small scale butterly effect. In a way, FFX-2 had a similar thing, but divided into 4 endings (including the perfect one), even talking to a hidden yuna at the beginning earned you that 1% or something to the grand total. I know they said it's going to be one ending here only so we'll need to see how that plays out.

    They also mentioned Facebook, although I don't remember now but I believe they that they will want to make the game so amazing that it's like being in another world, and you'll be allowed to hook up (this is how they made me feel) a Facebook account to share your adventures/journies within LR? I'll need to rewatch the video again.

    But I feel SE will not be that shallow if they're going balls to the walls about this. I mean, it warrented a 40minute presentation! I'm sure it's a lot deeper than what we are imagining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    That's fast! XD. When I was reading a review on a magazine here it said something about "playing for 50 hours and barely scratching the surface" so I presumed it was a pretty deep game.
    50 hours to scracth the surface sounds about right. 1:16 is just for the main story, and nothing else.

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    I've been playing Skyrim for 70 hours so far and have barely done the main story. It just has a LOT of side quest storylines and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    including KH
    huh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    huh
    KH games are really short. What makes the endgame so long is the huge amount of grinding required to even attempt the secret boss/bosses.
    Took me 30 minutes to get halfway through one of the scenarios in BBS. That's like 4 hours at best not counting the secret bosses. 20 hours for the first playthrough of LR sounds about right and you're meant to replay it.

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    Damn still haven't played the first 2 haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkar View Post
    KH games are really short. What makes the endgame so long is the huge amount of grinding required to even attempt the secret boss/bosses.
    Took me 30 minutes to get halfway through one of the scenarios in BBS. That's like 4 hours at best not counting the secret bosses. 20 hours for the first playthrough of LR sounds about right and you're meant to replay it.
    I don't think KH 1 and 2 are the same length as BBS..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    I don't think KH 1 and 2 are the same length as BBS..
    KH2 is probably the only exception. I'm talking about story here anyway, no side-quests or hidden treasures (that usually don't matter that much).