Meeble Burrows Findings

[Natallon]

What rank? How many goals completed?

Sorry for late response.
Adjunct Expedition 1. All goals completed.

[Helel]

Adjunct #1,2 both gave 1000 for goal 3, and adjunct #3 gave 750 for goal 2 (someone aggro'd on the last expedition) with 6 people.

[Slycer]

Adjunct #1,2 both gave 1000 for goal 3, and adjunct #3 gave 750 for goal 2 (someone aggro'd on the last expedition) with 6 people.

K those all hold up then. Looks like the pattern is mostly true, just there are a couple one-off expeditions that have their own specific marks determination. For some reason Assistant 2 doesn't keep the pattern, I don't know why.

FYI if you have six people there's no reason to not split up 3 and 3 for something like Adjunct 3. Even if both groups aggroed and only did goal 2, you'd still get 1500 each. Perfect run with 6 people would only be 1000 each.

[Helel]

K those all hold up then. Looks like the pattern is mostly true, just there are a couple one-off expeditions that have their own specific marks determination. For some reason Assistant 2 doesn't keep the pattern, I don't know why.

FYI if you have six people there's no reason to not split up 3 and 3 for something like Adjunct 3. Even if both groups aggroed and only did goal 2, you'd still get 1500 each. Perfect run with 6 people would only be 1000 each.

Oh yeah true. It was our first time trying it so we had no idea what to expect. I wasn't even aware the points scaled. Six people is way overkill for these things.

[NynJa]

Goldwing just pushed my shit in, but I have some proper information now.

It has decent accuracy and evasion. went in thf/nin, whm/blm, blm/rdm. Since I wiped, I have to parse manually:

Me:
52 crit
271 hits
173 miss
496 swings

65% accuracy
10% crit hit rate

Goldwing:
landed 10 melee hits
missed 46 hits
21 hits into shadows
1 crit
32 landed hits
78 swings

41% hit rate (I consider this decent accuracy on a thief lol)

<50% HP: Searing Effulgence

VERY VERY false, was the first TP move used on me. It ignores shadows (doesnt wipe them). The AoE range on that is less than 15, not sure if its from target or mob. But its stunnable if you're paying attention somewhat.

Spiral Burst goes through shadows (doesnt wipe them) and hits for anywhere between 220 to 900 (not sure what causes such a huge discrepancy). All enfeebles failed to land (Gravity, Blind, Paralyze, Slow). It may have just been a gimp blm/rdm getting resisted, but I dont think it would matter considering Spiral Burst will wipe them all. It might be stunnable, I wasnt trying. For what its worth, I didnt notice any built up resistance to stun, but its not like I casted that many.

As far as the list of TP moves go:
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:17:29]The Goldwing readies Searing Effulgence.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:17:46]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:22:36]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:23:54]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:24:27]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:25:09]The Goldwing readies Searing Effulgence.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:25:34]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:26:08]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:26:42]The Goldwing readies Searing Effulgence.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:27:08]The Goldwing readies Searing Effulgence.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:27:46]The Goldwing readies Searing Effulgence.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:28:27]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:29:14]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:29:59]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
Nynja_2012.09.28.log:[00:30:44]The Goldwing readies Searing Effulgence.

I didnt see any Hum, Sudden Lunge, or Noisome Powder. Whether that was just bad luck (and lawd knows this game likes to fuck with me), I'd question Goldwing's use of those moves. They may be restricted by day/night time like regular ladybugs as I fought it at night.

oh, also this

<50% HP: Gains access to Waterga IV

VERY VERY VERY wrong, and why I got fucked in the ass. Wasnt expecting Waterga at 95%, which it followed up with a spiral burst and promptly oneshot me.

[00:15:58]=== Area: Ghoyu's Reverie ===
[00:17:37]The Goldwing starts casting Waterga IV.
[00:17:42]Nynja's Copy Image effect wears off.
[00:17:43]Vermy starts casting Stun on the Goldwing.
(It landed, but obviously late late, I was fumbling to type it on my laptop)
[00:17:46]The Goldwing readies Spiral Burst.
[00:17:47]Nynja misses the Goldwing.
[00:17:47]Nynja scores a critical hit!
[00:17:47]The Goldwing takes 149 points of damage.
[00:17:47]Nynja starts casting Utsusemi: Ni on Nynja.
[00:17:48]Nynja misses the Goldwing.
[00:17:48]The Goldwing is no longer poisoned.
[00:17:48]The Goldwing casts Waterga IV.
[00:17:48]Nynja takes 844 points of damage.
[00:17:51]The Goldwing uses Spiral Burst.
[00:17:51]Nynja takes 810 points of damage.

Also, it has a regen effect. I didnt bother with food, but I think if I fight it again (and I really dont want to because this Meeble Burrows system is fucking lame (yay 1 5-15 minute event per 20 hours) and it might not drop anything I want), I'd need to use food if I use the same setup. I took it down from 96 to 42 in about 8 minutes.

[seiji]

Goldwing just pushed my shit in, but I have some proper information now.

It has decent accuracy and evasion. went in thf/nin, whm/blm, blm/rdm. Since I wiped, I have to parse manually:

Me:
52 crit
271 hits
173 miss
496 swings

65% accuracy
10% crit hit rate

Goldwing:
landed 10 melee hits
missed 46 hits
21 hits into shadows
1 crit
32 landed hits
78 swings

41% hit rate (I consider this decent accuracy on a thief lol)
...

I took it down from 96 to 42 in about 8 minutes.

how much dex/agi/accu/eva/skills do you have?
how many damage did you do.

[TSFFXI]

how many damage did you do

If you're planning to get an estimate of the mob's HP, that's probably going to be thrown off by:

Also, it has a regen effect

[NynJa]

Not to mention parsers dont parse incomplete fights? Unless parser technology has changed, i still have the log file though if theres a way.

The regen effect isnt epic like KV, but id eyeball it about 1% per min.

I can post my stats when i get out of bed. Stupid garbage collectors are loud as fuck and woke me up at 730 am.

[Yugl]

You can save half-parses. You have to stop the current parsing and save the file. If you haven't, get the latest parser.

[NynJa]

You can save half-parses. You have to stop the current parsing and save the file. If you haven't, get the latest parser.

found it!! and it seemed to have that parse saved automatically how cute, in a good way.

Damage Summary
Player               Total Dmg   Damage %   Melee Dmg   Range Dmg   Abil. Dmg  WSkill Dmg   Spell Dmg  Other Dmg   Absorbed Dmg
Kehhiko                  17709    29.02 %           0           0           0           0       17709          0              0
Nynja                    43301    70.96 %       29712           0           0       13589           0          0              0
Vermy                       13     0.02 %           0           0           0           0          13          0              0
Total                    61023   100.00 %       29712           0           0       13589       17722          0              0


Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss    M.HR %   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi  M+0.Avg  M-0.Avg
Nynja                 29712          0     29712   68.62 %    325/173   65.26 %   65.26 %     0/270    74.54    74.54


Melee Crit Damage
Player                #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%
Nynja                    53    72/664    178.08   16.31 %


Weaponskill Damage
Player                 WSkill Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   WSkill %  Hit/Miss   WS.Acc %   WS.Low/Hi   WS.Avg
Nynja                       13589          0     13589    31.38 %      14/0   100.00 %    452/1336   970.64
 - Exenterator              13589          0     13589   100.00 %      14/0   100.00 %    452/1336   970.64


Spell Damage
Player                  Spell Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   Spell %  #Spells  #Fail  S.Low/Hi     S.Avg  #MBurst
Kehhiko                     17709          0     17709  100.00 %       14      0    0/2041   1264.93        0
 - Blizzard III               773          0       773    4.37 %        1      0   773/773    773.00        0
 - Blizzard IV               2513          0      2513   14.19 %        2      0 1211/1302   1256.50        0
 - Drain                       68          0        68    0.38 %        2      0      0/68     34.00        0
 - Thunder III               1574          0      1574    8.89 %        2      0   745/829    787.00        0
 - Thunder IV                2576          0      2576   14.55 %        2      0 1288/1288   1288.00        0
 - Thunder V                10205          0     10205   57.63 %        5      0 2041/2041   2041.00        0
Vermy                          13          0        13  100.00 %        3      0       1/6      4.33        0
 - Dia II                      13          0        13  100.00 %        3      0       1/6      4.33        0

Thats from 100 to 93/94 when it 1shot nyn. It regened back to 97 while I was kiting on Kehhiko, tossing out a couple nukes (5416 in damage) in the process.

As far as my stats, should be:
Att 448
Acc 416
Str 122
Dex 145
Agi 107
Base Att 602
Base Acc 521
in my TP set

evasion is going to be skewed since I was spamming exen, but it wiped the debuff every time it did spiral.

[00:17:51]The Goldwing uses Spiral Burst. (all of the following)
[00:17:51]Nynja takes 810 points of damage.
[00:22:41]Nynja takes 630 points of damage. (engaged with 15 to go in weakness, I got scurred!!)
[00:24:00]Nynja takes 224 points of damage.
[00:24:33]Nynja takes 555 points of damage.
[00:25:39]Nynja takes 715 points of damage.
[00:26:13]Nynja takes 715 points of damage.
[00:28:29]Nynja takes 233 points of damage.
[00:29:19]Nynja takes 236 points of damage.

[Slycer]

To be fair there was a giant orange box on top of the Goldwing page that says the info is from the test server. Thanks for throwing your new info on there, I'll get rid of the test server tag now. It's not unlikely that they made some of the bosses harder because they were EXTREMELY easy on the test server. In fact, I'd go so far as to say the first two were soloable (they were definitely duoable, as I did duo them), so I'd almost guarantee those two are more difficult now. This sounds a lot like that dick ladybug NM in Abyssea that nobody ever did because it was so stupidly difficult compared to other tier 1 NMs.

[NynJa]

Its trioable, if i wasnt caught off guard at the start and lost 6-7 min. It would still be a very close fight though (97-42 in 8 min means it would still take almost the full 15 min).


also, I forgot this part of my stats if anyone is trying to reverge engineer mob stats:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Adjunct_Expedition_2 https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Adjunct_Expedition_3
I had lvl 3 buffs on both of those.

[Yugl]

Well if the behavior changed so that the last 25% occurs at the start, I would suspect a different behavior at 25%.

[NynJa]

Well the old information said that waterga4 and the unique move are active after 50%, not 25.

[Slycer]

First drop report I've seen shows Alcedo's Gauntlets (already known from test server) and Aneirin's Gloves as drops from Goldwing. The reports will trickle in very slowly because of the time requirement to build boss pops, wouldn't be surprised if it's well over a month before we really have everything pinned down.

[Byrthnoth]

I can't find Biscard Cuisses:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Burrow_Investigator

Were they removed between the test server and real?

[Slycer]

Yes, Briscard Cuisses were removed, just kill them from that page (and Burrow Researcher). Probably swapped with something else, but we won't know for.. say.. another 16 days or so, at the very least.

By the way, there's essentially an equivalent post on the JP side to the one I made about the retarded length of time between Meeble Burrows KIs. JP side's more active, so it's getting a lot of support over there. I wouldn't be surprised to see an official response in the next week or two. Generally speaking, it seems that most people are dissatisfied with the system in place, but not for the same reasons. Most people don't seem to care about the 20 hours between KIs, but they are much more focused on the fact that the stock is capped at 5 (or, more accurately, 4+1). Most of them are calling for a removal of the stock cap, along with potential ways to reduce the time between pheromones in future updates via KIs or whatever (remember the old version update timeline did show two updates to the "dungeon crawl" system, which turned out to be Meeble Burrows, before the end of the year).

[Foldypaws]

Spiral Burst goes through shadows (doesnt wipe them) and hits for anywhere between 220 to 900 (not sure what causes such a huge discrepancy).

I *think* it's a multi-hit move. Do mob multihit moves give players more TP when they land? Could fight the Abyssea ladybug that spams spiral burst to verify for sure if they do.

[Jem]

Just did the Wyvern (Dreyruk) as DRK (Used Apoc), SAM (Masa), BLM, Dual-Boxed WHM. Was pretty straightforward as long as spells were stunned. We derped at one point on them and it killed both DD's but was easily kited while we unweaked. Even with the 5 mins weakness we cleared with 3 mins remaining so doing enough damage definitely isn't an issue (Did 100 > 25 in 5 mins)

It seemed to have pretty high def (or was a lot higher level than us) as Catas only hovered between 1500-2200 with LR + RCB + Endark up. Normal melee swings 200-370 ish.

Can cast Aeroja in addition to what the wiki says although we assumed as much since wiki says Fire and Wind spells. Also casts Flare and Tornado. Guy with us says it seemed to cast faster as its hp lowered but can't say I noticed.

Basically easy enough, just stun spells.

Can't really fill you in on drops as it dropped fuck all except Hi-Pot +1. Buyables from NPC are exactly as wiki says after clear so nothing changed there.

Drops or lack thereof

Spoiler: show

http://www.gwcdn.com/albums/images/5...528b3063a8.jpg

[Chimerawizard]

Associate Researcher #3: goal3: 18 mobs; 3 people entered. goal 3 cleared. 2333 points each.
cleared with 2x DD + embrava... goal 3 cleared with 10 minutes remaining. too weak