Meeble Burrows Findings

[Slycer]

damnit now i'm confused as to what everyone is talking about; maybe translate for me what Seiji is talking about. ><

I would also like to know what is unlocked with that "Full Clear" catagory mentioned in earlier posts.

I posted a little bit back, the only thing I can think of for full clear is that you complete goal 3 on every expedition. If you check the data that the Burrow NPCs store, they have info on which goals you completed from each expedition, independent from the grimoire you have traded (you can even check this when no grimoire is traded), so maybe that's what it is. Makes no sense that it would just be clearing all expeditions, because just killing Umagrhk (researcher emeritus) would be the same thing.

To clarify Seiji's post... on one set of runs, you use Diligence as the "progress" book and unlock access to the bonus to spoils expedition separately on the Avidity book. Then, you do Researcher 4 with 1/6 using Diligence and 5/6 using Avidity. Finally, everyone does the boss run with Diligence. The one diligence grimoire with the "bonus to spoils" will give everyone bonus to spoils, and everyone else will have bonus to spoils still on their "Avidity."

Next set of runs, 5/6 people use Diligence as their progress book, and 1/6 people (one of the people who still has bonus to spoils) use Avidity as their progress book. Now you don't need to redo Researcher 4 to get buffs again because you already have them recorded. You can repeat for three more sets of runs/bosses, with a different person using Avidity each time. Finally, when you're down to just 1/6 people left with bonus to spoils, you have everyone redo Researcher 4 to get bonus to spoils back for everyone on Avidity. Wash, rinse, repeat. In this way you only need to do the bonus to spoils run (or any other buff-gathering run you choose) on 1/6 sets of boss runs. Obviously this is all assuming six people, would work for less too, just slightly less efficient.

[Chimerawizard]

Okay I think I get it now;
start with researcher; do 1-4 (boss access for everyone)
repeat researcher 4 with everyone using the other grimoire -leader
Do boss
do 1-5 on other tiers with leader using "bonus to spoils" grimoire and everyone else using a fresh grimoire.

makes sense, and as long as you start a set of runs with researcher each time you could use that to only do researcher 4 an additional time only once for every 6 bosses. if you start with something other than researcher; or have <6 members you'll need to repeat it more often.

also, you could kill all 6 bosses (bonus to spoils active) once every 27 runs. I'd still prefer to trio as many of the bosses as possible, spoils split 3 ways in 28 runs looks more efficient than split 6 ways in 27 runs. I just gotta figure out how to beat all the NMs trio...

[Garka]

Sounds like a winning formula, awesome.

[Garka]

It would seem to become even more efficient as you obtain wanted boss drops and cap out, as you would need to use the other grim less and less and just focus to get clears for some only. Sounds good.

[Slycer]

It would seem to become even more efficient as you obtain wanted boss drops and cap out, as you would need to use the other grim less and less and just focus to get clears for some only. Sounds good.

Depends on if there are other ways to get the KIs, otherwise you'll need to get them repeatedly for Umagrhk.

[Slycer]

double

[Garka]

I mean more so having to use 1/5 of the researcher 4's on a boss you don't care much for drops on.

[Yugl]

Wyvern boss has 90-93k HP.

[Slycer]

Cool, wasted 5 runs with 3/5 members kicked out of Assistant 5 (Silagilith), and I'm officially not doing this event anymore until it gets patched or I'm burning KIs.

Also, in case anyone was wondering, we unexpectedly got to test whether the Salvage DC thing would work (I dc'ed during entry into a different run). What happens is that when you get back into the game, you'll be in Sauromugue, lose the pheromone sack and immediately get pulled into the expedition, which is good if you actually do DC during entry. The only thing that might work is if you wait more than 15 minutes... but then I'm thinking it'll just pull you in, use your KI, and kick you out immediately.

[Loziel]

As someone who hasn't tried this yet, but wants to. This system sounds like a horrendous mess. Once a clear and workable way to game the system like we all did with Odin runs back in the day is established, ill get started, but as it stands, this system is bs. Keep up the good work fellas.

[Helel]

Kicked out of adjunct #4, all of us. We all relogged and entered without issue a second time. Gonna go again saturday and just build a 2nd boss pop on the 2nd grimoire for now.

[Slycer]

Did this fix it? I'll tell you that I certainly won't be the one to test... not for days. It honestly still sounds like they don't know whether they fixed it or not, from the way the post is phrased.


http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/pol...ews21720.shtml

At the following time, a version update was performed on FINAL FANTASY XI.

[Date & Time]
Oct. 4, 2012 at 3:00(PDT)

[Affected Service]
- FINAL FANTASY XI

[Update Details]
Further countermeasures have been implemented for the following bug from Meeble Burrows:

- A player may be ejected from the underground cave immediately after the start of a research expedition.

*We will continue to monitor the situation to ensure that similar issues do not occur.

[mdkuser]

nvm.

[Garka]

Not sure if the maint fixed it, anyone have testimonies?

[Kenrusai]

nice!

[Garka]

Is the fast cast torque the only drop from the last boss, or is there any gear in the DATs that could come form it. Cause.. fast cast+5 is meh, at least for my mules. My whm has -10% cure torque and my bard has -3% song and +10% duration torque..

Since no one has done the fight, its pretty much guaranteed to drop more than just 1 item, it'll just take a few weeks until people find out for sure which items also drop, and there is plenty unaccounted for.

[Slycer]

Is the fast cast torque the only drop from the last boss, or is there any gear in the DATs that could come form it. Cause.. fast cast+5 is meh, at least for my mules. My whm has -10% cure torque and my bard has -3% song and +10% duration torque..

My guess is Akasha Chaps and that new harness also both drop from that boss. Those are both new models (not reskinned or reused), and the stats are very nice on both, so it would seem appropriate that they would be from the "final boss." Which will frustrate me to no end as I'd probably kill some babies for Akasha Chaps.

[Slycer]

I have an idea behind the "total completion rewards" category of research marks items found in the dats. If you check through the menus, you'll find that the Burrow NPCs record your completion of goals from each expedition on a permanent basis in one of the lists - not grimoire-specific, you can check it even when one isn't traded. For example, it will say "Adjunct #1 ... Goal 3, Adjunct #2 .... Goal 2, Adjunct #3 ... Goal 3, Adjunct #4 ... Incomplete," etc. Perhaps getting goal 3 on every non-boss expedition (in addition to, maybe or maybe not, beating all the bosses), will count for "total completion"? Makes more sense than it being progress-related, because if it was just progress, then unlocking Researcher Emeritus rewards would essentially be the same as total completion.

Based on a translation of what I see on JP wiki, I'm more confident that what I said above is indeed the case. Not positive, mind you, but more confident. I can only assume that they pulled their information from the game dats, but their header for this section of items is called "Exchange Items for Full Completion of All 3 Goals" or something to that effect. Either someone is making the same assumption, or the JP dialog is clearer in this regard. This would explain why we never saw these items on the test server.

[Loziel]

Any sign of Gusterion yet?

[Byrthnoth]

It likely drops off Dreyruk:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Dreyruk
http://www.ffxidb.com/zones/93/dreyruk