The Ashita Project goes live!

[Zirael]

Tried it out a few weeks ago and was impressed, definitely looking forward to developing some stuff. On the other hand, I don't see myself actually using it until there's a strong spellcast replacement.

This. There are three types of spellcast users: clueless, script kiddie and sentient. You would have to cater for all three types to convince them to change over.
Clueless people would need a converter that would convert their xmls (made by a friend or downloaded from internet) into .lua. If their xmls don’t work anymore with new spellcast, it will be a big setback. You could of course tell them to use gearswap macros manually for the time being, but noone really likes backpedaling.
Script kiddies would need a converter to some extent too, but could be capable of tweaking the code after conversion themselves. There should be a table available for them showing how different functions (IF, ELSE, ADVANCED etc.) are handled between languages. Each spellcast command/status would need an equivalent in lua shown for easy changeover.
Sentient people who can write a spellcast script from scratch would need good documentation to be able to do the same in lua fast. Also, detailed debug mode.

[Esvedium]

Luacast and its development might be what finally pushes me over to Ashita. I have played around with it some before, and really like some of the features and plugins that are already out there, but I have said many times that without Spellcast or a direct replacement for it, I wouldn't play this game. I'll have to dig around in Luacast and all that Lua can offer when I'm on vacation in about a week.
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[Spagnutty]

I'm very excited for this.

Hyshio you're maybe a little irked seeing us all brush over the main project only to fixate on OMG LuaCast!!! But it really will be cool as hell.
I'm probably a little biased since most of my day job is Lua scripting hahaha. I'll pull down the project and poke around with the Lua features. I'm almost definitely too lazy to actually contribute anything of value, but I can at least give some feedback.

[Yugl]

Where the hell is Motenten?

[Kincard]

Okay, I'm one those "clueless" users. I'm going to try to slowly convert my windower things over to this before I actually try using this, but have some questions now:

1. I tried using some windower plugins but they would not load. In particular, I tried loading AutoExec, GuildWork, Infobar and Lightluggage. Is there a way for me to load these?

2. After a bit of searching around I found there's a LL equivalent for this program called Lotomatic, wondering if this has options for lotting profiles like LL does. If so, what's the command?

3. General computeringing question. I guess- I have ton of windower equip macros, is there anything I can use to just automatically clear out the "input" typed at the front of every line? lol
Doing it manually would take a while.

Thanks.

[Churchill]

find/remove "input"

[Hyshio]

I'm very excited for this.

Hyshio you're maybe a little irked seeing us all brush over the main project only to fixate on OMG LuaCast!!! But it really will be cool as hell.
I'm probably a little biased since most of my day job is Lua scripting hahaha. I'll pull down the project and poke around with the Lua features. I'm almost definitely too lazy to actually contribute anything of value, but I can at least give some feedback.

lol nope we actually expected luacast was gonna be the big hit and was gonna be the reason people would use Ashita. We pretty much looked at the spellcast thread on here and saw all the request people wanted and made it happen.

We where originally gonna make the announcement with luacast complete but we need more user input on it to make it better. So any help would be appreciated.

[RZN]

1. I tried using some windower plugins but they would not load. In particular, I tried loading AutoExec, GuildWork, Infobar and Lightluggage. Is there a way for me to load these?

Windower plugins will not work with Ashita.

2. After a bit of searching around I found there's a LL equivalent for this program called Lotomatic, wondering if this has options for lotting profiles like LL does. If so, what's the command?

Usage
Lotomatic comes with a few basic commands. These are simply to turn the extension on and off:
/lotomatic on - Turns the plugin on.
/lotomatic off - Turns the plugin off.
/lotomatic passall [on/off] - Turns auto-passing on everything on or off.


Configuration
Lotomatic uses a simple configuration layout to handle passing and lotting on items.
The configuration file should be located at: <Ashita Root Folder>\Config\Lotomatic.xml

Here is a sample configuration that was used during testing of this plugin:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<Lotomatic>
 <!-- Flint Stone -->
 <itementry id="768" rule="loot" />

 <!-- Zinc, Iron, Mythril Ore -->
 <itementry id="640" rule="pass" />
 <itementry id="641" rule="pass" />
 <itementry id="642" rule="pass" />
 <itementry id="643" rule="pass" />
 <itementry id="644" rule="pass" />
</Lotomatic>

There is also a tool to convert you LL profile

3. General computeringing question. I guess- I have ton of windower equip macros, is there anything I can use to just automatically clear out the "input" typed at the front of every line? lol
Doing it manually would take a while.

To insure widower scripts work:
Comments are any line that start with "#" so any "//" in your current script needs to be changed to "#".
Ashita handles commands differently "/input" commands are sent directly to the game bypassing the extensions so it is better to simply remove it.
Third party program commands "/console", I think was the windower command are handled by the windower input extension. It takes "//", "/console" and "/con" and passes them to the emulated console interface for third party tools.

The short answer is replace "//" with "#" and remove "/input".

[Kincard]

Thanks for the response, but 2 of the answers weren't quite what I was looking for.

Windower plugins will not work with Ashita.

Got it. I got a bit confused because the page says that Windower apps will work with Ashita but I'm assuming by that you means outside programs like KParser and such, rather than plugins?

Lotomatic stuff

I had read that post before asking, my question had to do with multiple different lotting profiles. From the sound of it, you're only allowed on lotting profile (Lotomatic.xml) instead of multiple different ones like LightLuggage allows. If I want to have two different lotting profiles on different characters active at once, is it possible? LightLuggage has the //ll profile "txt" option.

The short answer is replace "//" with "#" and remove "/input".

I was actually looking for a way to do these edits without having to go into each file and do it manually, but I found a way now so it's not a problem anymore.

[Dazusu]

Bootstrap - the ability to interact with Ashita fully through C#.

Now I've just seen this, incredibly exciting - Yay, I don't have to learn C++!

This was my main concern with Ashita the last time I spoke to RZN about it; learning c++... hurdles!

[Esvedium]

I looked through some info on Lua, but it's a bit overwhelming. I am a technical person, and creating spellcast xmls is easy for me, but... god damn, I'm lost on this.

Does anyone have a sample LuaCast file that I can look over and try to get a better grasp on the setup, commands, etc? I remember when I started using Spellcast I had a similar feeling as I do now, and the only way I got past that was to get a few xmls and go over them, pull them apart, and try to make my own from there.

[kenshyn]

So can this run with windower and if so how to start both up with pol?

[RZN]

Thanks for the response, but 2 of the answers weren't quite what I was looking for.



Got it. I got a bit confused because the page says that Windower apps will work with Ashita but I'm assuming by that you means outside programs like KParser and such, rather than plugins?



I had read that post before asking, my question had to do with multiple different lotting profiles. From the sound of it, you're only allowed on lotting profile (Lotomatic.xml) instead of multiple different ones like LightLuggage allows. If I want to have two different lotting profiles on different characters active at once, is it possible? LightLuggage has the //ll profile "txt" option.



I was actually looking for a way to do these edits without having to go into each file and do it manually, but I found a way now so it's not a problem anymore.

Lotomatic currently only supports a single profile but it would be worth it to suggest adding the feature, it wouldn't be hard to add and atom0s is great about adding things.

I looked through some info on Lua, but it's a bit overwhelming. I am a technical person, and creating spellcast xmls is easy for me, but... god damn, I'm lost on this.

Does anyone have a sample LuaCast file that I can look over and try to get a better grasp on the setup, commands, etc? I remember when I started using Spellcast I had a similar feeling as I do now, and the only way I got past that was to get a few xmls and go over them, pull them apart, and try to make my own from there.

It may be best to put aside the way spell cast works and focus more on what you would like to do. At this point in LuaCast's development, it is not a drop in replacement. Rather a very powerful, easy to use framework that could be used to do the same things as Spellcast.

In your extensions folder you will find a folder name LuaCast, this contains all its scripts. By default LuaCast loads "main.lua" which also includes "events.lua". Events.lua is just a wrapper around the event system Ashita calls.

In main.lua you will see a number of examples of using the event system.
for example:

require( 'events' );

function onHandleCommand( cmd, nType )
    print( string.format( "Incoming command: %s, type: %d", cmd, nType ) );
    
    -- Override and resend..
    if (cmd == "/wave") then
        AshitaCore:GetDataModule():SendCommand( '/bow', CommandType.Typed );
        return true;
    end
    
    -- test command
    if (cmd == "/test") then
    
        local player = AshitaCore:GetDataModule():GetEntityList():Find( 'Atomos', 0 );
        if (player ~= nil) then
            print( 'Player: ' .. player.Name );
            print( 'Player Race: ' .. tostring( player.Race ) );
            
            -- Speed hax!
            player.MovementSpeed1   = 100;
        end
       
        return true;
    end
    
    return false;
end
events.Add( "onHandleCommand", "luaCast_onHandleCommand", onHandleCommand );

events.Add( "onHandleCommand", "luaCast_onHandleCommand", onHandleCommand );

Tells the event system to call the onHandleCommand function when the event "luaCast_onHandleCommand" is raised by Ashita.

Ashita handles every game input be it typed, macro or menu as a command and they are assigned a value by the game and passed to the event as nType.
This allows you to do fun things like replace commands, in the case the "/wave" command. Returning true from this event stops the command from going to the game.

Documentation is very lacking and there are only a few events right now. We are trying to keep the interface/ events as close to the extension interface as we can. As always suggestions are more than welcome and if you need help with anything post a question or hop on our irc.

[RZN]

So can this run with windower and if so how to start both up with pol?

Ashita and Windower can not be used in the same process. They are not compatible. There are a number of things that they both do that will cause the other to fail. I tried in early version to make them work together but was unable to without changing major parts of windower.

[atom0s]

Got it. I got a bit confused because the page says that Windower apps will work with Ashita but I'm assuming by that you means outside programs like KParser and such, rather than plugins?

Correct, third-party apps that work with Windower (via WindowerHelper) will work with Ashita too.
The plugin interfaces are entirely different between the projects and we do not have access to Windowers source or interface information to make them cross-compatible.

I had read that post before asking, my question had to do with multiple different lotting profiles. From the sound of it, you're only allowed on lotting profile (Lotomatic.xml) instead of multiple different ones like LightLuggage allows. If I want to have two different lotting profiles on different characters active at once, is it possible? LightLuggage has the //ll profile "txt" option.

At the moment no, there is no profiling system in Lotomatic. I created it out of request from one of our testers and profiling wasn't mentioned so I didn't know this was something people had or wanted. I'll add it to the list of things to do though.

Now I've just seen this, incredibly exciting - Yay, I don't have to learn C++!

This was my main concern with Ashita the last time I spoke to RZN about it; learning c++... hurdles!

Keep in mind Bootstrap has its issues and such since it's still beta, so expect to crash when you use it.
Be sure to encase basically everything you do with try/catch to help limit the crashes.

I looked through some info on Lua, but it's a bit overwhelming. I am a technical person, and creating spellcast xmls is easy for me, but... god damn, I'm lost on this.

Does anyone have a sample LuaCast file that I can look over and try to get a better grasp on the setup, commands, etc? I remember when I started using Spellcast I had a similar feeling as I do now, and the only way I got past that was to get a few xmls and go over them, pull them apart, and try to make my own from there.

LuaCast is still very early beta and far from a replacement to Spellcast. At it's current state, it's basically just something for people that understand Lua to mess around with and interact with Ashita in Lua. Other than that there is no structure for it to work like SpellCast at all.

So can this run with windower and if so how to start both up with pol?

Yes, you can run both at the same time. Just start both of them as you would normally. You cannot use them on the same instance of the game though.

[kenshyn]

Ashita and Windower can not be used in the same process. They are not compatible. There are a number of things that they both do that will cause the other to fail. I tried in early version to make them work together but was unable to without changing major parts of windower.

Cool dang it I can't play without spellcast lol....

[Yugl]

Btw, one suggestion is to rephrase warnings (And maybe have a color code system) so people understand whether they're taking more risk using an extension than the correlating plugin. Otherwise, people will look at the extension v plugin and believe one carries more risk (Unless that is the case lol).

[atom0s]

Btw, one suggestion is to rephrase warnings (And maybe have a color code system) so people understand whether they're taking more risk using an extension than the correlating plugin. Otherwise, people will look at the extension v plugin and believe one carries more risk (Unless that is the case lol).

For the warnings on our extensions, that are on our forums, it's typically just stated that if the extension modifies packets that we warn the users about this as things can be changed and cause the packets to be modified incorrectly. They don't really hold any more risk than the plugins you already use with Windower. While they are not as up front about what they do, their plugins do modify packets as well regardless if they say they do or don't.

For us, we just want people to know that the extension has a bit more risk than other extensions that might not do anything major.

As a comparison, Recast has less risk of issue than Lotomatic. Recast reads memory and prints the data to the screen and that's it.
While Lotomatic reads and sends packets back to the server to automatically loot or pass an item.

[Mercilessturtle]

As much as I dislike git, you really should consider using github. At this point, anyone who has had to come within a mile of doing anything resembling programming in the last 5 years already has to have a github account. You'll be missing out a a lot of small random fixes from people when they have to jump through hoops to help (like profiles for lotomatic for example).

[Esvedium]

The info on LuaCast is appreciated. I'm getting a new small laptop up to date as far as ffxi goes after wiping it and installing Win8 on it, so I'll use that for fucking around with Ashita, I guess. I'm still excited about the project in general. :D