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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    As stupidly annoyingly long as the boat ride from Mhaura to Whitegate is, I have to admit that it was pretty exciting the first time on release day when you were on there with 50+ other people for 15 minutes heading towards all the new areas... so I kinda hope they make you ride the airship the first time, then allow you to warp after (as long as there's no stupid quest like collecting random dumb items or paying 500k gil first a la ToAU).
    I agree. I love making the trip the first time I go somewhere, seeing the sites and shit. Should make you take the boat and just activate a waypoint when you land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    I agree. I love making the trip the first time I go somewhere, seeing the sites and shit. Should make you take the boat and just activate a waypoint when you land.
    Have to keep in mind this is a shoe-string budget we're talking about. If we had to have a boat/airship zone, then there'd probably be one less actual zone to explore, or having to wait an extra 1.5 years for the story to conclude.
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    I'm kinda hoping shit like PaaM is the devs finding an excuse to fuck around with the PS2 client code to find new ways of playing around with the memory management to squeeze more out of it in other areas

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    Honestly if the transport zone doesnt have something useful like an HNM then its wasted dev time. The ship to Al Zahbi was hot and then no one cared about it because outside some sights like an Apkallu flopping aboard or Dolphins it was a standard ferry. Give me a giant sea monster flagged for anyone aboard to attack with a 30 min timer that diverts the ship and gets people to ride the boat constantly or waves of monsters that culminates in an notorious monster that needs to downed in a time limit.

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    The boat is the HNM. Every boat is a 1:35 chance of leaving the dock and coming alive. Then you must battle the boat for your lives, from the inside. Also the ocean view turns into the random scary space travel bullshit from the Gene Wilder Willy Wonka movie. Now that's a boat I'd ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    Honestly if the transport zone doesnt have something useful like an HNM then its wasted dev time. The ship to Al Zahbi was hot and then no one cared about it because outside some sights like an Apkallu flopping aboard or Dolphins it was a standard ferry. Give me a giant sea monster flagged for anyone aboard to attack with a 30 min timer that diverts the ship and gets people to ride the boat constantly or waves of monsters that culminates in an notorious monster that needs to downed in a time limit.
    this pritty much, while it is nice for the 1. time its just a wasted zone. I would rather have the Dev-Team focus on more important stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Why are we talking about lag in whitegate and not the trailer
    Because were discussing the trailer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    As for SoA, I wonder how much of stairs-town will be traversable now, since the tiny screencap from the site still makes it look kinda........polygonally basic in the distance as the leaked dat was, which still gives off the impression half of the zone will be locked off/for show.
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    SE probably trying a different approach with how laggy whitegate was...and still is considering its almost empty.
    Reading is really really hard

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    Man now I'm thinking about fighting on boats. The game needs some crazy Ahab guy with an enormous city-sized battle barge to hunt down sea monsters. Make the boat trip a free-for-all zone with beseiged style combat for like, Salty Dog Points to buy things from Ahab. HNMs appear rarely, frightening off all lesser mobs, and drop gear that you can only lot if you actually contributed (kept track with a point system and if you don't get enough you get a message "The Captain has deemed you unworthy of a share of the booty"). And sometimes nothing appears because sometimes fishing sucks ass.

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    Fishermen will love that...

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    I'd think the whole of stairs town is accessible because the dats suggest you can go up all the way to the castle... Firstly by walking and then aethernet.. uh waypoints

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Because were discussing the trailer





    Reading is really really hard
    only in a solipsistic world

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    ironic coming from you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    I'd think the whole of stairs town is accessible because the dats suggest you can go up all the way to the castle... Firstly by walking and then aethernet.. uh waypoints
    Damn it Spira, I was just about to say that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    this pritty much, while it is nice for the 1. time its just a wasted zone.
    What? Why would it be a wasted zone? It could be just like the Mhaura>Whitegate trip which is still a pretty important zone. Unless you're arguing the boat from Mhaura>Whitegate is now a wasted zone after that first trip?

    Because it's far from it. People are regularly fishing these:
    http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/thumb/...escription.png
    For this:
    http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/thumb/...escription.png
    Then buying these:
    http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/thumb/...escription.png
    To fish these:
    http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/thumb/...escription.png

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    What's going on in the trailer at 1:40 behind the words? Is that a rune maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    What? Why would it be a wasted zone? It could be just like the Mhaura>Whitegate trip which is still a pretty important zone. Unless you're arguing the boat from Mhaura>Whitegate is now a wasted zone after that first trip?

    Because it's far from it. People are regularly fishing these:
    http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/thumb/...escription.png
    For this:
    http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/thumb/...escription.png
    Then buying these:
    http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/thumb/...escription.png
    To fish these:
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    well besides of fishing ¬.¬

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    New SoA Trailer 2012.12.27

    Why are we talking about the boat, they have already said that we won't be going by boat or airship as its too far and they don't want to waste development on a one time boat ride. It will be by waypoint for sure

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    Anyway part of that trailer that shows a close-up on a proto-waypoint looks an awful lot like part of Jeuno, maybe Upper Jeuno. That's probably the way there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    well besides of fishing ¬.¬
    The same could be said for Aery though..."well besides for the 3 hours every day where people went to camp Faf" (back in 2004-2010)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    The same could be said for Aery though..."well besides for the 3 hours every day where people went to camp Faf" (back in 2004-2010)
    but you have seen 200 peopel everyday in aery and never see every day 200 people riding a boat!

    I think it was used occasionally for exp on spiders and flys back then. and its used for excalibur too. but yeah. still better then a boat ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loziel View Post
    Why are we talking about the boat, they have already said that we won't be going by boat or airship as its too far and they don't want to waste development on a one time boat ride. It will be by waypoint for sure
    Because there is an Airship Dock in the dats.

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