Military judge contradicts Obama admin on Chelsea Manning dick size

**Abandon** · 2013-01-15 08:07

Personally, I'd have shot him on sight and been done with it. Damaging or not, what he did is inexcusable.

**Nephlite** · 2013-01-15 11:37

Originally Posted by noblemountain

I think people are forgetting what you addressed there. This isn't a civilian court. He is subject to the UCMJ first and foremost.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Xno Kappa

Any offense of government misconduct or wrong doing associated with this incident will be opened under a new ROI with a restricted distribution to only the CID and DODIG commands. Manning has already had his Article 32 hearing, so more then likely his trial is pending the additional investigations created in relation to this. Basically what's taking so long I can pretty much guarantee is that a majority of people in his chain of command and all others involved are going to be titled and subsequently investigated if they haven't been so already. His case file along with a huge block of ROI numbers around it are probably blacked out in the ACI2 database from any other CID agent to see except those assigned to it, let alone the public.

I love you sooo much. I worked in CID for a bit. Wouldn't believe some of the shit that just disappears on the daily. Our desks didn't even have anything personal on them. No titles, no "hanging out", no cooler talk or personal plot holes like in NCIS. Just last names, a lot of head nods, and a lot of paperwork. Paperwork that will one day go in to a bin then you never see it again.

Military is waiting for the next big incident to unfold before this whole thing gets swept and Manning disappears.

**kuronosan** · 2013-01-15 12:34

I hate your new name Hiro.

**Xno Kappa** · 2013-01-15 16:34

I really should've thought it through in a sober state lol.

**notorious bum** · 2013-01-16 05:01

Originally Posted by Abandon

Personally, I'd have shot him on sight and been done with it. Damaging or not, what he did is inexcusable.

Ikr we need to quit being pussies, Mother China would have had this dude ghost on Day 1.

**Buffy** · 2013-03-10 18:55

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...-for-june?lite

**Blubbartron** · 2013-03-10 19:08

Interesting article. One part of it angered me greatly - the judge asking him if he knew what he was doing was "wrong" as he was doing it. That's a bunch of bullshit. Against the law? Yes. Wrong? That's up for debate. The law does not determine what is right and what is wrong. It only determines what is lawful and what is not.

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2013-03-10 21:12

Yes, but to a judge, those are the same thing. They have to be, or else the laws will be selectively enforced, and that shit ain't cool.

**hey** · 2013-03-10 21:41

Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler

Yes, but to a judge, those are the same thing. They have to be, or else the laws will be selectively enforced, and that shit ain't cool.

Or they can just follow the law, even when they believe it is wrong. It's not that hard.

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2013-03-10 23:09

No shit?

**hey** · 2013-03-10 23:14

Then i'm not sure why you said they're the same thing. They're very different, even to a judge.

**Tarage** · 2013-03-11 01:16

Originally Posted by hey

Then i'm not sure why you said they're the same thing. They're very different, even to a judge.

How can you be so blitheringly stupid? It's not up to a judge to decide if a law is right or not in a trial that has nothing to do with said law. It's about a man who broke the law. You can't just go around saying "Well, you robbed that bank, but I think banks are immoral, so you are free to go."

Laws are laws. If you have a problem with the law, fix it or overturn it. You can't change the fucking rules mid game.

**hey** · 2013-03-11 02:49

Originally Posted by Tarage

How can you be so blitheringly stupid? It's not up to a judge to decide if a law is right or not in a trial that has nothing to do with said law. It's about a man who broke the law. You can't just go around saying "Well, you robbed that bank, but I think banks are immoral, so you are free to go."

Laws are laws. If you have a problem with the law, fix it or overturn it. You can't change the fucking rules mid game.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what i said. Post 49, since you obviously didn't read it. Also the context here is whether he thought he was doing anything wrong when he did it, not whether he thought the law that says he can't do it was wrong or not. Since you don't seem to have read those posts either.

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2013-03-11 02:49

Professionalism isn't unique to law enforcement, not sure why this even needs to be explained.

**myreality** · 2013-03-11 03:26

So many sociopaths and psychopaths here, can this forum even have a competent debate when it comes to enforcing what is correct and punishing what is incorrect? How many here would have the same views if they are on the receiving end of a corrupted program. I'm sure some of you would change your opinions rather quickly.

Mannings saw that the government was a corrupt piece of shit, a chance presented itself to do something about it and did. Never mind it was not the holy grail of evil corruption but he grabbed what he could ( which was still a lot). Just because there is a law that states someone cannot reveal the governments corruption does not mean it is a law to follow. Just expect to deal with the fallout like a man and keep your head high.

**Churchill** · 2013-03-11 05:02

Well he isn't being executed like he should be, so he's not really dealing with it like a man now is he.

**myreality** · 2013-03-11 05:45

Originally Posted by Churchill

Well he isn't being executed like he should be, so he's not really dealing with it like a man now is he.

I'm just going to ignore this one.

**Qalbert** · 2013-03-11 08:06

by replying to it?

**Churchill** · 2013-03-11 08:37

"I'm giving you the silent treatment!"

**Mazmaz** · 2013-03-11 08:58

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