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    Their rabidly loyal fan base and arrogance would be my guess (again assuming any of this is true).

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    Quote Originally Posted by elison View Post
    Stockholders must be having a field day w/this and the always online stuff lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    Stockholders must be having a field day w/this and the always online stuff lol
    Nah man, SmartGlass!

    Oh wait...

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    Wonder what the delay is for. If they already have the always online shit in production, not like they could change that in a month, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Wonder what the delay is for. If they already have the always online shit in production, not like they could change that in a month, right?
    It's a software thing, so a month to fix that and prepare a new and more amazing show to fix this pr nightmare. Of course, assuming the rumor is true.

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    Cant wait to see the first jtagged box.

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    yeah, it's absurd enough that until they actually announce it I don't want to believe it, but given the sheer number of sources saying so, and the fact that they haven't done any PR spin on it makes it seem like it is at least a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    It's a software thing, so a month to fix that and prepare a new and more amazing show to fix this pr nightmare. Of course, assuming the rumor is true.
    They knew from the outset what they were getting into w/"always online" so public outrage wouldn't change that since they knew it would already be the public reaction. Keep in mind that most ppl, even though they bitch and hate the idea, will most likely still buy it in the end. It will 100% hurt their sales, but they knew this from the start w/o the public outcry.

    My best guess for the delay is to let the Orith bs settledown. Because publicly confirming "always online" 2 weeks after the Orith crap will just make it worse and there is no way their PR team can soften the blow. I mean who wants to publicly confirm the "always online" when online sites are still running the "always online - deal w/it" stuff

    And frankly, if it wasn't true, after all of this damage, they would outright deny the allegations. But pushing back their conference is terrible in the first place, they should 100% not do this

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    I thought as much on the push back. Might be too late however. Of course, they will probably start commercials and promoting their system far ahead of whatever scheduled timetable they had, and certainly before the Sony PR team begins promotions. It's the only real way to counteract what just went down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    And frankly, if it wasn't true, after all of this damage, they would outright deny the allegations. But pushing back their conference is terrible in the first place, they should 100% not do this
    It isn't good for Microsoft at all. Sony is apparently supposed to have another conference of some kind late April/early May. This would mean that Sony gets to run this one unopposed again and get even more traction and hype. At the very least, Microsoft needs to announce officially that a new system at least exists so that they don't further abandon their fans.

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    Another Sony conference? I sure hope they will emphasize that the system won't be always online lol

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    A more believable rumor.

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    500 or 300 with a subscription....? Wtf is this?

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    they did a test run of that model at the official MS stores, if memory serves, something like 99 bucks for a 360 but you commit to pay a certain amount over two years, or something like that. don't really remember the specifics, so apologies if I am recalling incorrectly.

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    What happens to people who renege on their povertybox subscriptions? Does it stop working? Do repo men come to your house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    they did a test run of that model at the official MS stores, if memory serves, something like 99 bucks for a 360 but you commit to pay a certain amount over two years, or something like that. don't really remember the specifics, so apologies if I am recalling incorrectly.
    you can buy them now at retail stores. its 99 + 2 years of Xbox live at 14.99 a month.

    If you stop paying they basically hit you with early termination fees.

    its a rip off. You are buying an xbox for 99 dollars but then paying 360 dollars for 2 years of live, lol.

    11. EARLY TERMINATION FEES.

    An Early Termination Fee (“ETF”) is a charge made to Your credit card if any of the following occur:

    If You return Your Xbox Product(s) after the Return Period, and You cancel Your Subscription before the Term ends;
    If You fail to provide an on-time, full Subscription payment and we are required to cancel Your Subscription; or
    If You violate the Xbox LIVE Terms of Use, resulting in termination of Your Xbox LIVE membership.

    The ETF is intended to provide reasonable compensation to Microsoft for the losses it suffers when a customer cancels the Xbox LIVE Subscription (and does not remain a customer for the full term of the Agreement). The ETF is part of this Offer and is not a penalty.

    Schedule of Early Termination Fees to be paid to Microsoft:

    Year One of Subscription (Months After Purchase)
    Months Post Purchase 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
    ETF for Cancellation $250 $250 $250 $240 $228 $216 $204 $192 $180 $168 $156 $144

    Year Two of Subscription (Months After Purchase)
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    ETF for Cancellation $132 $120 $108 $96 $84 $72 $60 $48 $36 $24 $12 $0

    Taxes may apply to an ETF. The content of the Offer and the applicable taxing authority for the state where You live determine if taxes apply. These taxes are valid and not a result of a billing issue.

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    So depending on when you cancel, is how much they will charge on your credit card.

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    wow that's even worse than I thought

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    assuming the rumor prices are correct, and there is no different between the subscription unit and a regular unit, you are basically going to be paying $660 in the long run or $160 dollars more then what it would be to just buy a regular unit out right.

    Also, if you are currently a gold subscriber, the rest of what you have left on it wont be used till AFTER your 2 year agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aevis View Post
    Rumor out saying Adam Orth got fired. Guess it's time to trend that #dealwithit :D
    Wow, you mean what he said wasnt the overwhelming majority and wasnt the gospel? Whodafuckinthunkit

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