Getting raped is part of the job description when you're a woman in the military

[Uzor]

They had it in modern times.

Apparently, they've been talking about allowing it again as the amount of rapes has increased since it was disallowed, and even more so since US bases won't even allow prostitutes to sign in to bases with a soldier anymore.

[Tarage]

You know, maybe we should just have a general rape thread.

You know, since we're waist deep in rapey goodness.

EDIT: It seems to me the downside to letting in prostitutes is that soldiers come back with STDs. I mean granted that might be better than rape but that's still awful.

EDITEDIT: Abandon, what are your thoughts?

[Uzor]

In the Netherlands when they allowed it, they had to go to the doctor to get tested after each time, even if they used a condom (which was mandatory). And the girls had to get tested frequently too.

[hey]

I'll admit a bias as I'm for legalized prostitution in most situations.

Most? In what situations are you against it?

[Stanislaw]

Should check out the issue with Canadian forces. If they have the same issues. I wouldn't want any future children male or female in an environment like that. Especially if there's any chance that a male or female can be raped.

Well, there was that case of Russel Williams a while back that makes it arguably worse, so it goes to show not all forces are infallible.

Most armies since forever have traditionally had prostitutes following the soldiers.

This. Even the US had it during the Korean War and (probably) the Vietnam War as well.

On the other hand, you can then have issues similar to Comfort Women that can potentially pop if the military tries to make it official, so...

[Rhyis.]

Somebody simply buy these motherfuckers a fleshlight.

[Tarage]

Somebody simply buy these motherfuckers a fleshlight.

This. We need Operation Pocketfucker.

[archibaldcrane]

And this has been allowed to continue in any capacity whatsoever because...why exactly?

Ask Archi

wait...wut?

[Zauriel]

It's because we have complete retards and fratboys in our military. You know what the Russian military does? It pays for hookers. Give the guys some prostitutes to spend all their combat pay on and you'll see this disappear.

[Ksandra]

Somebody simply buy these motherfuckers a fleshlight.

http://www.realtouch.com/

[archibaldcrane]

hey guys i heard this is the thread where we say people rape because they're horny, and that rape is just an extension of sexuality, and if these guys just had outlets for their sexual energy then they wouldn't want to rape


instead of something completely different

[Tajin]

hey guys i heard this is the thread where we say people rape because they're horny, and that rape is just an extension of sexuality, and if these guys just had outlets for their sexual energy then they wouldn't want to rape


instead of something completely different

lol, on point.

[hey]

I'm against simply decriminalizing it as it is. I'm of the opinion that it should be regulated by state authorities to keep men and women who prostitute themselves off of drugs, clean of STDs, and away from pimps. Legalized prostitution under state-run regulation would also give us more authority to come down on human trafficking.

Okay, fair enough.

[Xno Kappa]

Many victims say their rapists outranked them, and sometimes the perpetrator was the same official they'd have to report the crime to. This was the case for Rangel.

That's a flat-out lie. There are numerous entities to report a sexual assault to within the military, and once it's reported you're chain of command is taken completely out of the picture and CID investigates.

The problem with the prosecution rate in sexual assault cases that are reported is that the majority of victims tend to report it after all evidence is destroyed with no witnesses to corroborate their story. Very rarely does the victim go immediately to a hospital to have a SAFE kit performed. The army has excellent programs in place like SHARP or Victim Advocates who are there specifically for the victim to guide and support them through the process on how to handle being sexually assaulted. Unfortunately soldiers don't use these programs or won't report a sexual assault because the stigma of rape is a black man jumping out from the bushes, not your buddy taking advantage of you when you're both trashed or your superior who's trying to be "helpful." So you'll have victims come forth with the allegation two~three weeks after the incident after they learn what's available to them. The longer it goes unreported the more difficult it becomes to investigate.

The next problem is that any subject with half a brain will claim consensual sex. Usually the only way to prove these cases is either through a confession during a subject interview, a pretext phone call with the victim wherein the subject runs his mouth and inadvertently confesses, or a witness who literally saw them fucking either consensually or not. The investigator/agent can scream at the DA/SJA til they're blue in the face that they're convinced a sexual assault occurred, but without any credible evidence or testimony the subject is walking.

Sexual assaults are the most difficult kind of cases to resolve. This shit ain't Law and Order: SVU where it's all wrapped up in 45 minutes.

[Rhyis.]

So what you're saying is these women should get in contact with Ice-T.

[Xno Kappa]

[Jer]

And this has been allowed to continue in any capacity whatsoever because...why exactly?

This, and much other bullshit, continues because of a lack of accountability among many things.

Frankly, I'm surprised that the units around here are showing the video (The Invisible War) as part of the sexual assault prevention training as it comes out multiple times and says that current Army programs are failing. I can only see 2 reasons for this, they either show it to say 'We were wrong' or they're telling people that they are free to go and get their rape on. Given that the Army's track record for admitting they are wrong is much like the use of nuclear weapons in war (the first person to do so regretted it and while it seems dangerously close to happening at times, it never actually happens), I'm somewhat inclined to believe the second.

[Churchill]

We actually got pamphlets instructing us on the 10 easy ways to rape your colleague and get away with it in boot camp

[Anakron]

The next problem is that any subject with half a brain will claim consensual sex. Usually the only way to prove these cases is either through a confession during a subject interview, a pretext phone call with the victim wherein the subject runs his mouth and inadvertently confesses, or a witness who literally saw them fucking either consensually or not. The investigator/agent can scream at the DA/SJA til they're blue in the face that they're convinced a sexual assault occurred, but without any credible evidence or testimony the subject is walking.

Aren't relationships between ranking and subordinate officers strictly forbidden? So even if they claimed consensual sex, won't the ranking officer still be in a heap of trouble?

[Churchill]

Yes, but it's not really enforced because it's kind of a dumb rule. You're also not supposed to hang out General->Field->Company->SeniorNCO->NCO->Junior Enlisted.