Geomancer: Findings and Mechanics *Needs More Handbells!*

[nomad2637]

Sould be the other way around. If the monster is south of you, it takes more damage. If it's north of you, you hve higher m.acc. Those boxes are where the player is casting from, with the mob in the middle.

And that's the picture I was talking of. And that should end the argument, as there's 2 official sources that state it's the mob's position in relation to you, and not the way you face.

Woops good catch, got mirrored in my brain. Edited for clarity.

[Alarial]

So... I'm having trouble thinking of uses for Geo. Any suggestions? Where it fits in any events?

[Fereydoon]

So... I'm having trouble thinking of uses for Geo. Any suggestions? Where it fits in any events?

Probably nice in a Mage Party for anything where you'd mage burn. AoE Defense Down Aura that can't be resisted unless immune, and most likely stacks with all other forms of defense down. Attack Aura might let CORs roll something else.

[Alarial]

Seems like any HNM will kill the tubes pretty fast, negating debuff. And the sch would need to be near the melee for the Attack bonus to be effective too right..?

[Heslon]

So... I'm having trouble thinking of uses for Geo. Any suggestions? Where it fits in any events?

hard to say until we know how strong the buffs/debuffs/nukes are

[Fereydoon]

Seems like any HNM will kill the tubes pretty fast, negating debuff. And the sch would need to be near the melee for the Attack bonus to be effective too right..?

We don't know how much HP the tubes have, they also have to be AoE'd, can be healed, and can be made invincible for a time.

You could also make the Defense Down come from the Geo and the Attack Up come from the Loupan, and place the Loupan slightly better, only being hit by the biggest AoE's. Throw on a bunch of DT and sit there being a buff.

[Uzor]

Seems like any HNM will kill the tubes pretty fast, negating debuff. And the sch would need to be near the melee for the Attack bonus to be effective too right..?

Depends on the cooldown of the ability that heals luopans, and the HP they have.

[Heslon]

you should be able to place them good, so they dont get killed every aoe and they have a short recast time, so even if they get killed, you can just recast them (sure they have a high mp cost, but its not like they get killed once and you cant get them up again)

[nomad2637]

I was thinking with the new defense and attack changes that Wilt and Barrier would be pretty useful (assuming they get a good buff). With the mob atk cap goin from 2.0 to 4.0 lowering the mobs attack and raising tanks defense would be a good strategy I think.

Also for situational monsters GEO gets a debuff of magic attack down. Mage type mobs could take a big hit if it's powerful enough, especially combined with RUN's mdef buffs.

[GeneJackit]

I was thinking with the new defense and attack changes that Wilt and Barrier would be pretty useful (assuming they get a good buff). With the mob atk cap goin from 2.0 to 4.0 lowering the mobs attack and raising tanks defense would be a good strategy I think.

Also for situational monsters GEO gets a debuff of magic attack down. Mage type mobs could take a big hit if it's powerful enough, especially combined with RUN's mdef buffs.

Yeah, with the anticipated piles upon piles of destruction looming with the atk / DEF changes, I can imagine GEO being responsible for keeping DEF buff on, and wilting the enemy

[Sechs]

Subs for GEO?
/WHM? /RDM? /SCH?

[Heslon]

i guess /rdm would be good for nuke but /whm for buffer for haste/-nas/cure4?

[nomad2637]

Seeing that new dmg 72 club during reives and GEO getting Hexastrike, I'd almost be inclined to say /NIN or /DNC and have them be up meleeing. Of course would have to see what gear they get but it certainly intrigues me. Especially with the -ra line being close range.

i guess /rdm would be good for nuke but /whm for buffer for haste/-nas/cure4?

GEO doesn't have any natural healing skill so cure 4 will do really poorly overall. /SCH most likely if you're backlining. Light Arts for supporting with na and B skill healing, Dark arts for nuking.

[Heslon]

wanst sure if a /sch cure 3 is better then a /whm cure 4 with low skill D.

[nomad2637]

Yeah pretty sure it would be. At least roughly equal to /SCH's Cure 3 but with more MP cost.

Also GEO is on Genbu's Shield, so that could open up some more melee possibilities.

[Uzor]

I think /RDM would be best. Slight m.att bonus for nukes, fast cast, and Convert. Also Cure spells, Haste etc.

[Dotsudoku]

Seeing that new dmg 72 club during reives and GEO getting Hexastrike, I'd almost be inclined to say /NIN or /DNC and have them be up meleeing. Of course would have to see what gear they get but it certainly intrigues me. Especially with the -ra line being close range.

Yeah no

Realistically, the spell list just seems to confirm that GEO won't have much of a place for anything that isn't particularly vulnerable to magic damage. Can't march, and doesn't have much of anything that replaces COR. They're basically competing with DD jobs for party slots

But we'll see

[Toth]

I think they said you can set auras around other players so GEO wouldn't have to be front line all the time.

[Alkar]

I guess we'll have to see but Luopan's HP depends on geomancy and bell skills so in future updates its HP will increase. It's also a likely candidate for tier 1 merits.

[test123]

Has anyone logged on yet? Still downloading. How do you get to the new lands?