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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromgarde View Post
    Lunge can be used to magic burst, yeah.

    Sexy need to try this subbed to my blu/run could be interesting in that case....

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    Why was barsilence left out? o_ò

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    Why was barsilence left out? o_ò

    SE at it's finest I swear at times SQA by monkeys....

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    Rune en-damage is affected by MAB. I put on Atma of Beyond in Dom Ops, and en-hits with Ignis were 20-21 and en-hits with Gelus were ~28.

    Lv80, GS317, using Galatyn.

    I can't think of any time this information would be really useful, but there it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiraa View Post
    Rune en-damage is affected by MAB. I put on Atma of Beyond in Dom Ops, and en-hits with Ignis were 20-21 and en-hits with Gelus were ~28.

    Lv80, GS317, using Galatyn.

    I can't think of any time this information would be really useful, but there it is.
    Should be nice for Lunge the fact that it is affected by MAB and can Magic Burst I bet some crazy numbers can be generated in Abyssea time to BREW all the Things lol....

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    oh it's definitely looks worth making a MAB set for lunge alone. But unless it comes on another piece of gear [like Athos Chapeau], I can't imagine anybody TPing in MAB though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiraa View Post
    oh it's definitely looks worth making a MAB set for lunge alone. But unless it comes on another piece of gear [like Athos Chapeau], I can't imagine anybody TPing in MAB though.
    Only if on a brew or hundred fist could be interesting lol

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    Well, technically that shows that Affinity affects the enspells, not that MAB affects them. Beyond does give MAB, but it also gives Ice Affinity which is why you're seeing about 30% more damage with the Ice rune.

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    Anyone try tanking high level mobs yet as a 99? I am very interested to see how we'll they hold hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Well, technically that shows that Affinity affects the enspells, not that MAB affects them. Beyond does give MAB, but it also gives Ice Affinity which is why you're seeing about 30% more damage with the Ice rune.
    This should be very very easy to test with all of the wayward Affinity gear out there.

    Meanwhile, with all of the +50 Affinity weapons -- I think Rune Fencer could end up being Gilgamesh xD, haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    Anyone try tanking high level mobs yet as a 99? I am very interested to see how we'll they hold hate.
    From what I've heard, damage for one, and Rune Enchainment abilities seem to deal a lot of damage. I read somewhere that valiance drew enough hate to turn a mob before damage was even done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolentDjango View Post
    This should be very very easy to test with all of the wayward Affinity gear out there.

    Meanwhile, with all of the +50 Affinity weapons -- I think Rune Fencer could end up being Gilgamesh xD, haha.

    From what I've heard, damage for one, and Rune Enchainment abilities seem to deal a lot of damage. I read somewhere that valiance drew enough hate to turn a mob before damage was even done.[/
    Um the only affinity gear are the trial staffs. Which are 35 and run can't wear them... plus no staff skill so it would kill lunge dmg even if you used say chat staff. And yes lunge does alot but thats the only dmg move other than enspell and that's once every 3 min.

    I'm in leech pt to get the last of my lvls... so later tonight I think I'll start working thru enmity values

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Um the only affinity gear are the trial staffs. Which are 35 and run can't wear them... plus no staff skill so it would kill lunge dmg even if you used say chat staff. And yes lunge does alot but thats the only dmg move other than enspell and that's once every 3 min.

    I'm in leech pt to get the last of my lvls... so later tonight I think I'll start working thru enmity values
    Oops, sry, I was thinking of resistance for some reason.

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    Ok finally able to hold 3 Runes, here is a simplified equation for Lunge

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    Runes     Multiplier (M)
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       1             0.75
       2             1.0
       3             1.25
    (Main Skill Level * M)* Number of Runes

    The game checks for Magic Accuracy of each Rune before adding them together. For instance, you can have 3 runes stored, but one or any of them can get resisted instead of doing a resist on the final damage.

    I believe when RUN is subbed, it always uses the 0.75 multiplier but I'll test later on.

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    Yeah, it's supposedly three separate hits. If you go Lunge a level 1 rabbit only the first hit will land and only 1 rune will be consumed. Next challenge is figuring out how multiple elements factors in to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Yeah, it's supposedly three separate hits. If you go Lunge a level 1 rabbit only the first hit will land and only 1 rune will be consumed. Next challenge is figuring out how multiple elements factors in to it.
    From what I am seeing it matches up with the notes

    1 Rune = That Element for Lunge
    Multiple runes with none matching - Lunge uses the element of the last chosen one, but still does damage based on the number of runes total
    Multiple runes with two matching - Uses the element of the matching runes and still does damage based on the number of runes total

    I'll test enspell after I get out of this pt

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    Lunge have a range?

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    I was able to use it Vs. a sand sweeper at 5.8 but not at 8, I was unable to attack at 5.8, so: "Yes but basically melee"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassiraa View Post
    oh it's definitely looks worth making a MAB set for lunge alone. But unless it comes on another piece of gear [like Athos Chapeau], I can't imagine anybody TPing in MAB though.
    Maybe some select MAB pieces though - Brutal/Novio for TP earrings? Stoichcheion Medal? Those have a big enough chunk of MAB that I'd at least be curious to see how they compare to the other options.

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    i did around 1200 to uptara with 3x lux(light) and ascetic potion on, no other magic attack gear.

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