Attack and Defence update

[Khajit]

Is there any pdt gear that's now effectively useless thanks to this update? All I can think of offhand is probably Darksteel armour.

[Obsidian]

I'd say Plumb boots have been made obsolete thanks to Thurandaut feet, but I don't have space to carry both.

[fantasticdan]

-5% pdt 49 defense all jobs boots have been obsoleted by -3% pdt 34 (with vit) def boots that only light melee jobs can wear, in an update that made defense matter?

[Fake]

-5% pdt 49 defense all jobs boots have been obsoleted by -3% pdt 34 (with vit) def boots that only light melee jobs can wear, in an update that made defense matter?

Considering that heavy melee jobs can wear phorcys feet and who even gives a fuck about mage PDT anymore (other than idle set, where you wouldn't use plumb boots), yes they are pretty obsolete.

[Obsidian]

-5% pdt 49 defense all jobs boots have been obsoleted by -3% pdt 34 (with vit) def boots that only light melee jobs can wear, in an update that made defense matter?

Given the choice between 2% PDT and -movement speed or more utility in hybrid PDT sets (and lolChakra), yes; for jobs that can wear Thurandaut I'd say Plumb is now obsolete. If you have the space for both, good for you. I don't.

[Intense]

BST STUFF.

So in a way nothing seems to have changed (for myself and 2 ) aside from that dragon behaving weirdly (wiki doesn't suggest any special hate mechanics) - technically all hate is via damage (via the pet) in the given scenarios above with a Cure Waltz III every now and then.

Thanks, it sounds a little reassuring. I will test it out and see what happens on my own.

[Taim Meich]

Is valoredge tanking more viable now, since his enmity (voke/flash/shieldbash) is JA based?

Only used it once to try and kill a bunch of butterflies. Had to use one Oil +3, but the fight was pretty easy. Problem is, if it's me the one attacking, and Sancho the one healing, we're much more efficient still. Valoredge could be nice to solo Lair Reives, and even then, Sharpshoot should be better due to better damage, since pets are not aggroed anyway.

[Warusha]

Considering that heavy melee jobs can wear phorcys feet and who even gives a fuck about mage PDT anymore (other than idle set, where you wouldn't use plumb boots), yes they are pretty obsolete.

Are all of the mages you play with mules or something?

[dasva]

I think he may be implying that mages shouldn't be taking hits and really care about pdt sets... which was more or less true till this update lol

[SephYuyX]

Im liking this update.
All of my old gear sets come back in to play with minimal changes: Charm+/CHR, hMP, enmity, etc.
First time im probably ahead of the curb. Wont last long, but hey, can enjoy it for now.

[perdition]

While I think they should readjust the enmity on static gains (ESPECIALLY cure V/VI) and continue refinement on the enmity system, I think it says a lot about the playerbase when all of a sudden WHMs are pulling hate for the first time in years and peoples' reaction to that is "THE GAME IS BROKEN" instead of trying to change their playstyle to accommodate the change. :/

After being on and off for several years now, the fact that people are pulling hate seems normal to me. I haven't experienced the new enmity issues simply because I have only had time to solo since the update, but I take it that -enmity gear is not being used anymore?

[dasva]

After being on and off for several years now, the fact that people are pulling hate seems normal to me. I haven't experienced the new enmity issues simply because I have only had time to solo since the update, but I take it that -enmity gear is not being used anymore?

Not like it used to be. More of an after thought now. But looks like it will make a come back lol

[perdition]

Not like it used to be. More of an after thought now. But looks like it will make a come back lol

It seems like everything in FFXI comes full circle, the more things change the more they stay the same... just waiting for RDM to make a comeback now.

[NynJa]

After being on and off for several years now, the fact that people are pulling hate seems normal to me. I haven't experienced the new enmity issues simply because I have only had time to solo since the update, but I take it that -enmity gear is not being used anymore?

I'm sorry, theres a difference between pulling hate from cure spam in a 5 minute fight, and from ripping hate from 1 cure3 at 80%.

[Fake]

Are all of the mages you play with mules or something?

All mages can idle in terra staff/umbra cape/dark rings etc. Beyond that, who gives a fuck because if you're prioritising your inventory sensibly you don't have room to be carrying around plumb boots.

And yes, pretty much all the mages I play with are mules (why would they need to be anything else).

[Arthars]

wait till u damage a mob to 85% and pull hate on a haste or slow

[Fake]

2 scenarios where thats actually realistic:

1 the mob has fuck all hp so you've hardly done any damage.
2 you're killing it slow/taking a lot of damage

I have noticed barely any difference in hate since before the update except for the first 5 seconds of each fight maybe.

[NynJa]

Fake once again, an idiot...SoA mobs obviously have "fuck all HP"

[Fake]

Way to miss the point, I wasn't referencing anything specific, I was providing hypotheticals. Just go back to sucking at this game.

[NynJa]

Make a blanket statement, then claim it wasnt what you said it was...kay. Idiot.