Skirmish: Findings and Information

[Werewolf]

They said they would adjust R/E/M, so I don't see the issue. If the items were shit, people would bitch about Skirmish being a pointless event.

This is SE we're talking about though; because we all know they never go back on their word...

Though I really hope they do XD

[Flippant]

According to the linked page, it can get weaponskill damage on it.

Er, which link? The JP Wiki? I don't see that, just on the katana.

[Ophannus]

They released the initial new 2hrs on the servers back in August, it's now April and we still don't have them. We'll probably get REM updates in a year. Next version update is probably in July, I bet we'll get a dev note tomorrow saying that the Dev team took a vacation after the expansion for a few months.

[Obsidian]

Er, which link? The JP Wiki? I don't see that, just on the katana.

Oh, woops. Got the order mixed up.

[chichicha]

Well, I'm not too worry for another 2 weeks in Asura. Currently, Inventors Rank 0.
Now that people will vote for Flag first, the rest will happen only week after...

Unless Ghastly Stone can be obtained from somewhere else and it's not affected by Inventor Rank ?

[Jem]

They released the initial new 2hrs on the servers back in August, it's now April and we still don't have them. We'll probably get REM updates in a year. Next version update is probably in July, I bet we'll get a dev note tomorrow saying that the Dev team took a vacation after the expansion for a few months.

Surely the best and dickish way to go would be to wait until the majority of people have these new weapons before adjusting R/E/M.

Probably add in some new weapons or augments at the same time which are a lot harder to get but surpass adjusted R/E/M slightly.

[chichicha]

Matsui said will enhance R/E/M in other methods, may be... similar to new weapons? Aug'd something on it?
DMG+ CRIT+ WS DMG+ ? etc...

Although... I don't quite like yellow texts on my Mandau... Idk, they make the weapon look ugly >.>;

[dasva]

iirc they said they wanted to do something to keep them relavent but wouldn't do trials or other methods to enhance them... which sounded like we want to do something but wont lol

[Suteru]

iirc they said they wanted to do something to keep them relavent but wouldn't do trials or other methods to enhance them... which sounded like we want to do something but wont lol

The "not trials" was a mistranslation. It'll probably be trials.

[Guitarman]

As long as the trial branches off before the afterglow trial. I'll pitch the biggest bitchfit....

Probably be "collect 20 ghastly stones" or somesuch.

[dasva]

The "not trials" was a mistranslation. It'll probably be trials.

I thought the will be some other way was the mistranslation?

[chichicha]

Matsui: On RME Weapons

Hey, it's Matsui.

We've received a lot of questions about what the future will hold for Relic / Mythic / Empyrean weapons, so I want to give you an update on where we stand.

For Relic / Mythic / Empyrean / Coin weapons, we're thinking that they will be strengthened by other means than Trial of the Magians.

With respect to weapons that fall within the groups above that have already been upgraded to level 99, we have a plan set so that they will continue to be useful (including equipment with no afterglow).

Shields and instruments will be excluded from this growth as they will still be the strongest, even when compared with the growth curve set with Adoulin equipment.

We won't get into the details just yet, but we'll fill you in as they become available.

I guess this new aug'd system from Inventor could be what's in their mind?

[Ophannus]

Could also mean theyre gonna ninja patch them. They really need to modernize Relic aftermaths and relic WS. Seriously all relic ws are 60% mods or 30/30 mods, with 3.0 fTP and all are single hits despite their animation. Additionally all the WSCs for relic ws are atypical for their job(CHR/MND for Greatsword, AGI for polearm etc). If they put relevant WSCs, revaluated relic aftermaths and modified additional effects so they were stackable with or at least stronger than current def/acc/att/eva down, then they'd be still relevant.

[Kenrusai]

Almost positive Matsui said he was adjusting R/E/M, but in no ways making them stronger, unless he's said differently recently?

Edit: nvm ;x

[grevenilvec75]

Could also mean theyre gonna ninja patch them. They really need to modernize Relic aftermaths and relic WS. Seriously all relic ws are 60% mods or 30/30 mods, with 3.0 fTP and all are single hits despite their animation. Additionally all the WSCs for relic ws are atypical for their job(CHR/MND for Greatsword, AGI for polearm etc). If they put relevant WSCs, revaluated relic aftermaths and modified additional effects so they were stackable with or at least stronger than current def/acc/att/eva down, then they'd be still relevant.

This is what i read it to be as well.

If they adjusted scourge to be on par or better than resolution, for instance, (lol wishful thinking) that would give you a good reason to keep your relic.

P.S. Metatron Torment is STR mod, but yeah i agree about WSC for most of relic WS

[Arthars]

yup he mention abt a "patch" for REM but also said its not to "enhance" them

so idk wtf he wants to patch XD

[Arthars]

This should be everything posted in the thread thus far. I know some people posted stuff like "I got a piece from a Reive" without naming it, so I tried to skip over the vague ones.


Cirdas Visage I - Coalition assignment

Cirdas Visage III - Soul Pyre (Moh Gates?)

Faithful's Torso I - Colonization Reive, Morimar Basalt Fields
Faithful's Torso I - Coalition assignment
Faithful's Torso I - Logging, Ceizak
Faithful's Torso I - Harvesting, Ceizak
Faithful's Torso I - Soul Pyre, Rala

Faithful Torso II - Soul Pyre, Rala

Faithful's Legs I - Soul Pyre, Foret
Faithful's Legs I - Soul Pyre, Moh Gates
Faithful's Legs I - Preserve Yahse and Survey Ceizak Assignments

Rala Visage I - Soul Pyre, Rala
Rala Visage I - Harvesting, Foret

Rala Visage lI - Mining, Sih Gates
Rala Visage lI - HELM, Yahse/Ceizak(?)


Mostly just bored at work, sorry for iPhone format. Hopefully this helps someone lol

for you guys out there who got from assignments, do you get them using 3 tags? my friend got a faithful torso I from supplying assignment to bivaoucs(3 tags), and i myself personally did only 3 tags runs since release and got none.

If you happen to get them using 1 or 2 tag, pls kindly post here so we all can just spam 1 tag here on to get a much more chance of getting a body part...

[dasva]

yup he mention abt a "patch" for REM but also said its not to "enhance" them

so idk wtf he wants to patch XD

Adjust other things to make them more relavent? Like nerf dmg enmity to make pld more useful lol

[EjinCaitsith]

Did a couple runs today. Run #1 was Cirdas using Head+Feet I and Body II. Body 2 seemed to increase the max personal loot pool by 2(to 5 max) and the weapon pool by 1(to 3 max). We had to kill 60 mobs for objective #1 and the rest, 10 more, to finish objective 2. Very easy overall. Went with BRD SAM x2 SCH WHM. Mobs had less HP than the regular mobs in Cirdas. We'd have to kill 1 to 3 mobs, then a bunch of extra mobs would pop(usually umbrils) and move to next room once they were all dead.

Run #2 was Rala. We had to kill 6 NMs for objective #1 and 2 more for objective #2. I believe there was Leech+Eft+Spider NMs in all. Fairly easy NMs; was never in danger of dying.


Cirdas clear:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7...0407202105.png

We all managed to get a +1 stone each. No +2 stones using I head, but these are the augments we got using the +1:

Spoiler: show

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/2...0407213408.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/609...0407214724.png
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/5...0407214735.png
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7606/...0407215916.png

Overall, this is ridiculously easy for weapons that have the potential to outclass R/M/E. This will definitely be attainable for casual players once this catches on and people start selling/buying the body parts for this. The only downside is that the body parts are going to cost a fortune, as they are a pain in the ass to just go out and try to farm on your own.

[chichicha]

Where and how did you get Stone?
From NPC in town?
Exchange with Bayds?

Which NPC?
Availability related to any Coalition Rank?