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  1. #21
    Ridill
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    23,594
    BG Level
    10
    FFXI Server
    Bahamut

    You say lazy I say smart. If given the option between doing something that you don't like quickly in order to get to what you want to do and have more time to enjoy that and you actively chose to do the thing you dislike or like less for more time instead I'd call you a masochist at best. Same goes for purposefully making money slower when your goal is to make money. Or whatever have you. Efficiency isn't laziness

  2. #22
    Fishing Guru
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    4,722
    BG Level
    7

    It all comes down to your means and your priorities.

  3. #23
    Puppetmaster
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    67
    BG Level
    2
    FFXI Server
    Bismarck

    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    It all comes down to your means and your priorities.
    100% agree with you

  4. #24
    An exploitable mess of a card game
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    13,197
    BG Level
    9
    FFXIV Character
    Gouka Mekkyaku
    FFXIV Server
    Gilgamesh
    FFXI Server
    Diabolos

    Follow-up on this:
    Most of you are aware that such cleave PTs have declined considerably, if not, completely disappeared. If you do happen to meet a scam group, however, know that you have an opportunity to remedy this issue (I'm aware this has been posted, but this does reinforce that they're serious about such PTs this round). I trimmed her SSs to avoid the random yells etc.

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0responses.png
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ponses%202.png

    Edit: Real question, which one of you fuckers were banned recently?

  5. #25
    Ridill
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    23,594
    BG Level
    10
    FFXI Server
    Bahamut

    They recently started up again a little. Wont see it everyday but here and there. Didn't realize there was a bunch of scamming... and geez most anyone here asks is like 1mil for 10-11 hours (though ends up being more since everyone I've been in has taken breaks for food and such and they don't count that time). I love jailing to return gil lol

  6. #26
    Sea Torques
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    677
    BG Level
    5

    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Edit: Real question, which one of you fuckers were banned recently?
    Wouldn't say recently or directly related, but my friends mule account was auto banned back in feb during a FC rmt sweep just for being in it getting exp. SE email had claimed it was an rmt account, seems was more just bad circumstance tho. She quad boxed and kept all them on the same SE account, incidentally because of that all of her accounts were banned.

  7. #27
    Old Merits
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    1,109
    BG Level
    6

    Well SE have likely increased the number of scams by killing off the 'legit' RMT cleaves.

    The RMTs on most servers have their jeuno yeller get periodically banned so they make a new one with a very similar name, they do business off people recognising this name since they don't scam/short change people. They've resorted to scamming (assuming its still RMT doing so) because they know that they might not even be around for the 10+ hours they intend to cleave for.

    SE are just wasting their own manpower, which seems to be the biggest issue for them, and preventing a relatively harmless form of obtaining gil.

    I am in no way saying SE is wrong for doing it, it just seems impractical, providing no real benefit to the average player whilst diverting resources away from more worthy causes.

  8. #28
    Nidhogg
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    3,751
    BG Level
    7
    FFXI Server
    Bahamut

    Its all but disappeared on Bahamut. Saw a shout the other day shortly before going to work, was gonna hop in it, but asked who was leading it, who was party leader, etc, FFXIAH'd them, and a few had no history, and the others had 2 days worth of history only selling gold box drops. I passed. :3

  9. #29
    Ridill
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    23,594
    BG Level
    10
    FFXI Server
    Bahamut

    Yeah kinda sad they seem to be blanket targetting a completely by the rules method of obtaining gil instead of ya know the people illegally selling it

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