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    Sounds to me Square-Enix to lazy to adjust the code, because merits actually never carry over as a subjob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    Sounds to me Square-Enix to lazy to adjust the code, because merits actually never carry over as a subjob.
    Previously, Last Resort gave 15% attack -15% defense as a subjob.
    Now, it gives 10% haste in addition to that.
    DRK main still can get +/- 25% attack/defense and 25% haste.

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    I look forward to selling some NQ Coifs, I guess?

    PS. SE. I hate you forever for Chocobo Jig II. If you're going to pick a stupid official forums suggestion, at least pick one of the popular ones.

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    An issue wherein the graphics of NPC "Noan" is being Galka instead of Hyur.
    lolwut.

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    i demand all the other light jobs get something useless to compensate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loziel View Post
    Drg/Drk finally gets the attack boost it needs, I already have a tasty 5 hit build /Drk ready to go from when they originally mentioned the idea. Cant wait to try this out
    I'd like to try that too, what's your set look like?

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    Those new statues... Statueception (statues within statues within statues...). Wonder if the banner will have some crazy moghancement effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    The difference between a level 1 and level 5 weapon skill is now 12% WSC post alpha (So you'd get an extra 12 WSC from 100 STR on Reso for example).

    So that extra 12 WSC from 100 STR on a typical 0.91875x5 Resolution would get you 12 x 0.91875 x 5 x 2.25 = 124 damage

    Just to give a simplified idea.

    Anyone free to correct me if I derped somewhere
    Looks right although you're likely to have double that STR amount on Reso so you're probably looking at 250 damage at capped attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Remember Last Resort is only 15% Attack without merits though so it won't be as potent as Berserk for an attack boost.
    That's true, but /sam offered drg no attack bonus outside of the str granted from hasso. The main difference now will be the large attack bonuses provided from /drk versus the STP (and I guess meditate/oh shit seigan moments?) of /sam, since both sub jobs will now be able to provide 10% haste from their respective JAs. Warrior was attractive as a sub job due to the attack bonuses it provided, but it gave no haste OR STP bonuses, so it usually fell by the wayside.

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    Hasso is fulltime, LR isn't.

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    Why are people assuming 10% JA Haste from Desperate Blows/Last Resort? As I understand it:
    * Level 99 DRK with 5/5 Desperate Blows Effect will have 25% JA Haste (this was said by SE previously)
    * 5/5 Desperate Blows gives 10% JA Haste, meaning that they must have 15% from the Desperate Blows trait before that point.
    * DRK gets the Desperate Blows trait at level 15 and it levels up after that point.

    How are you guys already pulling out 10%?

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    Might be something like 5% at 15, 10% at 40, 15% at 60. So that 10% can be subbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranth View Post
    That's true, but /sam offered drg no attack bonus outside of the str granted from hasso. The main difference now will be the large attack bonuses provided from /drk versus the STP (and I guess meditate/oh shit seigan moments?) of /sam, since both sub jobs will now be able to provide 10% haste from their respective JAs. Warrior was attractive as a sub job due to the attack bonuses it provided, but it gave no haste OR STP bonuses, so it usually fell by the wayside.
    Like Seha said, Last Resort isn't fulltime. It's only 60% of the time and if it gets dispelled you're boned. Hasso is 100% of the time and if it gets dispelled you can get it back up reasonably quick.

    /DRK: 15% Attack and possibly 15% Haste 60% of the time
    /SAM: STR, Accuracy, 10% JA Haste, 15 STP and a defensive back-up 100% of the time

    I think SAM sub is still going to be more viable tbh.

    That's assuming you get 15% Desperate Blows at 49 or lower too. You may get less than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    How are you guys already pulling out 10%?
    I'm hoping they were smart enough to make it 15% when its subbed still (then again it could also be something weird like 12%), but we dunno when the tier ups occur so who knows. Probably won't take too long to test it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Why are people assuming 10% JA Haste from Desperate Blows/Last Resort? As I understand it:
    * Level 99 DRK with 5/5 Desperate Blows Effect will have 25% JA Haste (this was said by SE previously)
    * 5/5 Desperate Blows gives 10% JA Haste, meaning that they must have 15% from the Desperate Blows trait before that point.
    * DRK gets the Desperate Blows trait at level 15 and it levels up after that point.

    How are you guys already pulling out 10%?
    Quote Originally Posted by Update Notes
    * The trait is learned at level fifteen, but one's degree of mastery in it will periodically increase as he rises in level.
    Implying there are multiple tiers of the trait.

    Edit: Beaten.

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    /DRK isn't that great really. COnsidering all available factors it's a marginal upgrade at best for the job(s) that it'd be relevant for (DRG is the only one that I can think of atm). You get stun I guess?

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    You forgot Weapon Bash.

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