DAT Mining 4/29/2013 (DISCUSSION)

[Buffy]

Well, this update didn't invalidate the one piece of gear I have that I'm really proud of (Khepri Jacket), but it's pretty bizarre what we are looking at.

[TummieGaruda]

If anyone is able to login have they checked to see if some of the weapons are available via Mweya plasm? (Highly doubt this, probably direct drop from non crafted ones)

[jimbobsonofgod]

naakul npc still showing 100k bayld to buy KIs

[Modoru]

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Where's your god now?

Lol'd hard.

[Rocl]

If anyone is able to login have they checked to see if some of the weapons are available via Mweya plasm? (Highly doubt this, probably direct drop from non crafted ones)

Can't see anything to buy etc. Looks like you need yggrete/plasm to even see what to buy.

naakul npc still showing 100k bayld to buy KIs

For the record it looks like you need to be Contributor in a Coalition to have the reduction (which as we can see, is 5k). No idea if multiple Coalitions at Contributor would reduce further.

[Gokulo]

You know people still need time to rank up with Coalitions more? And then there will be further ranks added?

[Kyreth]

But doesn't quite die, cause it doesn't do enough damage. Sorry I had to lolololol

Shouldn't have put his new armor on first.

[Damane]

Err... because doing that would make FFXI a single-event MMO instead of building off its long history of content? There'd be almost no reason to do anything not required for Delve. FFXI pre-Adoulin of the following repeatable events:
* Dynamis - For farming Relic (weapons, armors, +2 augments)
* Limbus - For farming AF+1 upgrades, Homam/Nashira gear (to upgrade), and Neo-Limbus gear
* Einherjar - For farming Ampuoles (for Mythics) and pretending Odin v2 drops are worth the terrible fight
* Assault - So you can enter Salvage
* Salvage - For farming Level 99 Salvage armors (and Alexandrite for Mythics, and level 75 gear to upgrade)
* ZNM - So you can make/upgrade a Mythic
* Nyzul Isle - For level 99 armors and tokens to make a Mythic.
* Legion - For farming the few worthwhile Legion drops and synthesis items
* BCNMs of all flavors - For drops that are still worth gil

I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but the point is that we were still doing a decade worth of content. Making R/M/Es worthless with these new weapons both changes the economic outlook of FFXI (making it much harder for an average-Joe to farm gil) and removes major motivations for Dynamis, Assault, Salvage, ZNM, Nyzul Isle, and Einherjar. The other equipment options further depreciate the gear offered by Legion, Salvage, and Neo-NI.

I see such huge content reserves (many of them recently re-worked) as FFXI's primary market advantage. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they actually abandoned it all, which means either Delve will be incredibly exclusive/have incredibly low drop rates, they've got more changes planned, they're trolling us, or all of the above.

I relly dont see the problem in makeing alot of gear obsolete. Granted makeing R/E/M obsolete went overboard. As said I would have liked them to add a quest where you could turn in your 99 R/E/M and be granted with a KI item that lets you use said WS with +WS dmg and aftermath + hidden effect + augments effect if mythic on any other Weapon of the same category.

[Kyte]

I think a lot of people are going to be needing a Bonanza Ball.

[jimbobsonofgod]

I am Contributor in peacekeepers and rank 3 in inventors.

[Modoru]

It's a necessity we all throw our bonanza balls.

[Loziel]

getting a 5k discount on KI's LOL

[TummieGaruda]

Can't see anything to buy etc. Looks like you need yggrete/plasm to even see what to buy.


For the record it looks like you need to be Contributor in a Coalition to have the reduction (which as we can see, is 5k). No idea if multiple Coalitions at Contributor would reduce further.

Balls...but if it stacks with multiple ones, then thats potentially 30k knocked off the price.

[Therin]

My bayld per hour was also really bad last week with 50+ people in Morimar and Ceizak because mobs were dead during 100% of the reives and so it was impossible to cap every evaluation. Do tell me about how much better it'll be once the entire server starts doing them.

Is Rocl capped everything in that SS? If so then I stand corrected and am loling right now.

Thankfully 100k was never really that hard to farm anyway, it only takes about 6 hours on average and that's excluding imprimatur use.

[Damane]

Balls...but if it stacks with multiple ones, then thats potentially 30k knocked off the price.

you are giving SE too much faith in alleviating time sinks...

[Obsidian]

Can't see anything to buy etc. Looks like you need yggrete/plasm to even see what to buy.


For the record it looks like you need to be Contributor in a Coalition to have the reduction (which as we can see, is 5k). No idea if multiple Coalitions at Contributor would reduce further.

I'm Contributor in the Peacekeeper's coalition and they're still 100k for me, so that's not it.

[Damane]

I'm Contributor in the Peacekeeper's coalition and they're still 100k for me, so that's not it.

maybe you have to have done at least 1 wildskeeper reive to get the reduction in price?

[Obsidian]

Could be; I've not done one yet.

[JSHidaka]

Balls...but if it stacks with multiple ones, then thats potentially 30k knocked off the price.

so just matter of time.. since it takes 15~ days to get a coalition to max rank... 75 from the start.. just 1 more month to "cap" everything..

[Modoru]

What about adoulin fame? iirc, that also contributes to price.