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    You can rotate the tank party brd too, I don't know if courser's roll + samurai/tact is enough to justify taking 7 rng instead of 8 or loosing def down from a drg or rdm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake View Post
    You can rotate the tank party brd too, I don't know if courser's roll + samurai/tact is enough to justify taking 7 rng instead of 8 or loosing def down from a drg or rdm.
    You don't need rdm to have dia on a mob.

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    I'm aware of that, like I said there are a number of jobs to choose from that may bring something to the table its just a question of deciding which. You could use thf for feint, or smn for reliable dispel, or even bst for killer instinct.

    My point was that I'm not sure a second cor is worth taking over one of the other options unless courser's roll is a better increase in damage over stacking another def/eva down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    Are those guesstimates or actual values? I know for us, even a 10min scorp kill feels like an eternity, then doing 5+ in a row is mind-numbing, especially if you don't get a bead at the end of the night for all that time invested. Killing the 10 scorp/turtle needed for a bead really wasn't the problem for us, it was that after killing 10, everyone was so demotivated and drained from the experience that they never wanted to do it again. By all means, I'm not advocating this method as the end all way to farm beads, but I'm sure there are some groups out there that would rather just farm some shards than kill some of these NMs 10+ times for a bead.

    Looking at Fake's 90 Mata kills with 7 messages, coupled with our LS's luck so far with messages(3/20 the past two nights and probably over 10 total so far since delve was released), it certainly seems to be higher than 5% chance to get a message to me. Obviously, more data needs to be compiled to get a better idea, since we have Jem and yourself with contradicting reports saying it's much lower(1%~).



    Person pops. If there is message, we sleep it. If not, they die. Don't see why you would let the person die if you get the message.
    perfect. thanks

    and yea, killing a turtle + farming shards averaging 15 mins a kill for 5-8 times a day, not getting any beads is mindblowing

    for those easy zergable NMs, idm to kill and hope for a bead at all

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    Could the -dt be colonization % related like in wildskeeper reives?

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    No

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    we got 2 msgs today, 1 on peiste and one on turtle. Never seen before every on all our pops. Enough to try boss at least, but not till a few practice runs likely.

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    A Jp group killed Toji this morning on Cerb, was their 3rd attempt, second attempt had it to 10%. Found out through a very lucky PLD friend who got to go with them and got ki. Apparently they've already killed the Bee 2x in the past week and are looking to take on the shark soon. They used the Rng strategy for Toji.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garka View Post
    A Jp group killed Toji this morning on Cerb, was their 3rd attempt, second attempt had it to 10%. Found out through a very lucky PLD friend who got to go with them and got ki. Apparently they've already killed the Bee 2x in the past week and are looking to take on the shark soon. They used the Rng strategy for Toji.
    HighPower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    This is likely the sticking point for almost every linkshell lol.
    I made a Yoichi before it was cool :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garka View Post
    A Jp group killed Toji this morning on Cerb, was their 3rd attempt, second attempt had it to 10%. Found out through a very lucky PLD friend who got to go with them and got ki. Apparently they've already killed the Bee 2x in the past week and are looking to take on the shark soon. They used the Rng strategy for Toji.
    Wheres the screenshots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    our gun rangers got hate on bee, just saying. Cept for one who had poor acc. We all died once too cept the gun guys, and the pld. The damage jobs that is.

    But yeah if you dont' go balls to the wall damage then prob okay.
    So you were only using 1 PLD on bee? Also, which NMs did you lock for bee? Apologies if that was already answered.

    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I made a Yoichi before it was cool :D
    Looks like I'm going to have to make a Delve Naakaul shell and find every decent yoichi/anni RNG on the server lol

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    Its 2006 again guys!!! RNG looking for members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    Are those guesstimates or actual values?
    Those are actual values. The numbers are a combination of pops that we actually killed, and others that we sac'd, but the point holds either way that we either A) Had relatively poor luck with the message, or B) The message has a depressingly low chance of appearing.

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    we locked chapuli and butterfly. Could have done moth instead. Used 1x pld but it's risky, but pulled it off.

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    How quickly does Chapuli go down with RNGs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garka View Post
    A Jp group killed Toji this morning on Cerb, was their 3rd attempt, second attempt had it to 10%. Found out through a very lucky PLD friend who got to go with them and got ki. Apparently they've already killed the Bee 2x in the past week and are looking to take on the shark soon. They used the Rng strategy for Toji.


    JPs on Cerb won't share info, esp Highpower. Pretty obvious it was them, they have been bringing boss setups to Mori the past week.

    They won't share info, they are very secretive and keep to themselves. (extremely decked out LS, but you have to catch them in action)

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    We (mostly Exodus LS) did a 2nd attempt on the bee last night. Timed out at 45%. The only issue we had was hate reset.

    Everything else is pretty straight forward, could basically be farm status if it wasn't for the hate reset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    How quickly does Chapuli go down with RNGs?

    8min kills. Timed a few last night before our bee run.

    Barrage and Double shot work very well to speed him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    JPs on Cerb won't share info, esp Highpower. Pretty obvious it was them, they have been bringing boss setups to Mori the past week.

    They won't share info, they are very secretive and keep to themselves. (extremely decked out LS, but you have to catch them in action)
    Only thing that keeps me skeptical is that HP wouldn't bring an outsider.

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