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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsex View Post
    Only spell I've managed to make completely free with that body is stone 1, but I use it for all T1-3 nukes and it certainly helps a lot.
    I don't have the body yet, but working on it now. Are there any quirks to it? Are you able to have a net gain of MP with it? Nuking with Stone I for 1500ish now on Geo, gave me hope that I could cast up to Fire, and possibly Blizzard for free, and if I ever had MP issues (silly 300 MP loupans...) that I could toss it on and spam Stone I for +26 MP per cast. Does it work in such a way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    I don't have the body yet, but working on it now. Are there any quirks to it? Are you able to have a net gain of MP with it? Nuking with Stone I for 1500ish now on Geo, gave me hope that I could cast up to Fire, and possibly Blizzard for free, and if I ever had MP issues (silly 300 MP loupans...) that I could toss it on and spam Stone I for +26 MP per cast. Does it work in such a way?
    I don't believe you can gain mp with it. Only reduce cost to zero. This could be lack of stone 1 damage on my part though. Could you post your geo nuking set?

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    Atinian/Wizzan/-/Erlene's Notebook
    Hag. +20 MAB/Eddy/Novio/Hekate's
    Hag. +19 MAB/Hag. +17 MAB/Icesoul/Icesoul
    Refraction/Aswang/Hag. +23 MAB/Weatherspoon

    Typically if I'm nuking (unless its Delve bosses) I've got Acumen up as well for +35ish MAB, and nuking from the west of the mob if its an option for +13 MAB. Elvaan without Int merits too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsex View Post
    Only spell I've managed to make completely free with that body is stone 1, but I use it for all T1-3 nukes and it certainly helps a lot.
    Should still be able to get the lower T1 nukes. I mean say water would only require you to do 500 dmg

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    How much Macc/Enfeebling skill is needed to reliably silence Tojil without GEO? is it even possible?

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    I drove a GEO once ... ONCE

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaWAR View Post
    How much Macc/Enfeebling skill is needed to reliably silence Tojil without GEO? is it even possible?
    Nothing too crazy to land silence. Don't need a geo. Basic enf gear and a Soothsayer (derp forgot rdm couldn't equip ati)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaWAR View Post
    How much Macc/Enfeebling skill is needed to reliably silence Tojil without GEO? is it even possible?
    Well seeing as people were landing it before the ilvl update and now we can get another 100+ macc on staffs alone it should be possible without geo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Well seeing as people were landing it before the ilvl update and now we can get another 100+ macc on staffs alone it should be possible without geo.
    Oh I shoulda clarified more, I mean land silence throughout the whole fight. I have 450~ skill and 220~ macc and after 5-7 minutes it wears off really quickly

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    Do geo debuffs work on the scorpion in ceizak? For earthbreaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pancakesandsex View Post
    Do geo debuffs work on the scorpion in ceizak? For earthbreaker.
    nope they dont, they also dont count for the moth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    nope they dont, they also dont count for the moth.
    Thanks.

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    Looking forward to Delve 2: is Hurkan immune to stun?

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    I'm pretty sure hurkan and yumcax are completely immune (thunder and earth based)

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    Yumcax is not completely immune to stun (tested in WKR yesterday).
    You'll need a metric fuckon of acc and capped GEO tho.

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    Might be a silly question, but for Dakuwaqa, if a Runefencer uses Liement as he's readying Tidal Guillotine (this is under the assumption it is water based as per BGwiki) and it heals you for more than 50% of your HP, will it KO you? lol

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    I dont think most people bother bringing RUN to delve, so your best bet would be to try it in WK reive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    I didn't figure it out, no. I guess I could go back to that some time, but it would detract from my Monstrosity leveling time!
    yeh!


    User was infracted for this post.

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    I'm in this delve ls that seems to be losing a lot of bee fractures so I have a couple questions so that I may provide some advice to my leader.

    First: We are running with 2x Geo, 1 pld, 3brd, 3 rng, 2 mnk, 1 blu, 2 stun schs, 2 cor, and 2 whm. Is that bad or are we not that good?

    Second: I sometimes think one of the geo's can easily be swapped out for something like drg, blu (after update hopefully), or dd. Is this a good idea?

    Sorry to ask a noob question, but the ls is pretty new to bee fracture. Would really appreciate some good feedback. Thank you.

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    It's pretty rough to lose with that setup. What's holding you up?

    Quick tips I can think of:

    - have a skill chain or two in mind for the butterflies

    - try to incorporate a RDM in there to Chainspell stun the scorpion below 50%(and make sure the attack boost is getting dispelled!)

    - have someone /DNC to keep Samba and steps on Mastop in addition to the harmless enfeeble rotation

    - start the moth fight with all of the alliance on top of each other to keep healers from pulling it away in the beginning and use only BRD and GEO debuffs(don't even use WS with effects on them) to keep it from healing itself

    - bee is straight forward, stun the bad stuff and make sure your BLU and RNG are on their games

    Lastly, as long as your RNG are worth anything, I have tremendously better results on bee and Mastop when I melee for TP. Resistances build based on usage, and ranged damage is its own category. My Last Stands hardly dip below 10-12k doing so

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