SCOTUS to rule on prop 8 and DOMA on the morrow. Tune into scotusblog for the best coverage.

**Conrad** · 2013-06-26 09:35

The Ninth Circuit was without jurisdiciton to consider the appeal. The judgment of the Ninth Circuit is vacated, and the case is remanded with instructions to dismiss the appeal for lack of jurisdiction.

from scotusblog. the decision on the prop 8 case: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...2-144_8ok0.pdf

**ringthree** · 2013-06-26 09:36

Overall: Fucking lame cop-out. As per normal with this court.

**ringthree** · 2013-06-26 09:37

Originally Posted by kuronosan

The ninth circuit decision ruled that it was unconstitutional.

The Ninth Circuit decision was vacated. We need to know the decision before that.

**Conrad** · 2013-06-26 09:37

ultimately it means gays in california can get married, but absolutely nothing is being done on a federal level and the supreme court is saying that it's not the problem of the federal government to deal with it.

**Conrad** · 2013-06-26 09:39

the weirdest thing is that the vote that it lacked standing was upheld 5-4 by Roberts, Scalia, Ginsberg, Breyer, and Kagan. idgi

**ringthree** · 2013-06-26 09:41

Originally Posted by Skirkle

ultimately it means gays in california can get married, but absolutely nothing is being done on a federal level and the supreme court is saying that it's not the problem of the federal government to deal with it.

Actually, I think you are correct, because this would push the decision back down to Walker's original decision. But I believe it could be properly appealed still.

Edit: Yep, Prop 8 is blocked from enforcement because of Walker's decision, but it can still be appealed properly.

**ringthree** · 2013-06-26 09:44

Originally Posted by Skirkle

the weirdest thing is that the vote that it lacked standing was upheld 5-4 by Roberts, Scalia, Ginsberg, Breyer, and Kagan. idgi

That's because it has to do with the legal standing and not the merits. Legally the were probably correct, but that is only because the Court decided to make it that way. There is nothing in the law that prevents them from hearing the case and deciding it on it's merits.

**Talint** · 2013-06-26 10:48

Originally Posted by Skirkle

the weirdest thing is that the vote that it lacked standing was upheld 5-4 by Roberts, Scalia, Ginsberg, Breyer, and Kagan. idgi

I have no concept of how these things work, but I find this a little fascinating.

Could this have been done defensively? I mean, if they were going to rule that the case had standing, could it have been that it would have been a 5-4 with a ruling against (rather than for, as seen in doma)?

**ringthree** · 2013-06-26 10:49

Originally Posted by Talint

I have no concept of how these things work, but I find this a little fascinating.

Could this have been done defensively? I mean, if they were going to rule that the case had standing, could it have been that it would have been a 5-4 with a ruling against (rather than for, as seen in doma)?

Doubtful. Kennedy wasn't going to support upholding Prop 8.

**Ksandra** · 2013-06-26 10:55

So, I just woke up. Gays get to marry?

**ringthree** · 2013-06-26 10:57

Originally Posted by Ksandra

So, I just woke up. Gays get to marry?

In CA, yeah, but could still be challenged. No other added states. If you are gay married where it is legal, then you get federal marriage benefits once Obama and the Congress gets it sorted out.

**Tyche** · 2013-06-26 10:58

Gays have always been able to marry in statesin which it's legal. Just now the government will recognize them as legal.

**Kuya** · 2013-06-26 11:03

Meh

**Ksandra** · 2013-06-26 11:03

Originally Posted by ringthree

In CA, yeah, but could still be challenged. No other added states. If you are gay married where it is legal, then you get federal marriage benefits once Obama and the Congress gets it sorted out.

hurray!

Originally Posted by Tyche

Gays have always been able to marry in statesin which it's legal. Just now the government will recognize them as legal.

hurray!

**Jonny** · 2013-06-26 11:09

Some of the comments on the Fox "news" Article are hilarious, one guy keeps yelling about how its not natural....

**ringthree** · 2013-06-26 11:19

Originally Posted by Jonny

Some of the comments on the Fox "news" Article are hilarious, one guy keeps yelling about how its not natural....

The commentary articles on Fox News are so salty. LOL Not like ranty, just all "if this is what you want, FINE, I DON'T CARE! *pout*"

**Jonny** · 2013-06-26 11:23

Originally Posted by ringthree

The commentary articles on Fox News are so salty. LOL Not like ranty, just all "if this is what you want, FINE, I DON'T CARE! *pout*"

A lot of them are also posting quotes from the bible lol

**Conrad** · 2013-06-26 11:24

Originally Posted by Kuya

Meh

basically

**Niiro** · 2013-06-26 11:25

Originally Posted by ringthree

once Obama and the Congress gets it sorted out.

**Ksandra** · 2013-06-26 11:36

Originally Posted by Jonny

Some of the comments on the Fox "news" Article are hilarious, one guy keeps yelling about how its not natural....

I've said this in relation to other stuff, but I hate the whole natural thing in regards to anything. We shouldn't be using animals to judge how we govern our lives. (They eat poop, guess we should too for food efficiency!) With that said, the fault in this case lies with the homophobes for bringing it up, forcing normal people to bring up how it happens in nature.

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