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    Base and multiplier not visible on cure pages.

    I hate to start a new thread over something so minor, but...

    The Base and multiplier of cures when used on undead aren't visible on the cure pages. You can see the values in there when you go to edit, but they just don't show on the pages themselves. No idea why, or how to change that.

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    I think that's collateral from removing them from damage spells. When they changed the made mass revisions, we moved them to the mechanics page. We'll see what Byrth can do about that.

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    Currently the "Old Values" are on the individual spell pages. I removed them from the template because they're no longer accurate while we figure out how we want to display the new values.

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    I'm planning a massive magic template overhaul to go along with the new spell information. As stated above, the M and V values were temporarily removed from all of the spell pages, which removed the cure values as well (you'll also notice that the casting/recast times on elemental magic spells are incorrect and still show the old values - I want to get everything updated at once so I don't have to do any rework because we're going to have to update the spell pages one at a time). You'll probably see the update over the next couple of days, but I'll post here once we have it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Currently the "Old Values" are on the individual spell pages. I removed them from the template because they're no longer accurate while we figure out how we want to display the new values.
    Old values are still accurate for mobs and pets... should probably still have them

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    Yeah, that's why I didn't delete them from pages and just moved the code here: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Template_talk:Standard_Magic

    I think that people would get confused and try to use them for players if I didn't hide them, though, so in the short term it seemed like a better solution.

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    Yeah, the old values are all still embedded in the template also if we ever want to reuse them for anything. I'm just adding new sections to the template for the new information, and keeping the old values embedded, but hidden.

    Are the old cast/recast times also the same for monsters?

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    I think that they are, yeah. I know that the casting time is at least the same, and the recast time has never been relevant for monsters.

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    The base and multiplier should be back on Cure pages. The side effect of this is that any pages to which the new base and multiplier values haven't been added yet now have the incorrect old values. I've been working on it, though - most elemental magic is up to date at this time (single target nukes, -ja, and -ra spells... only thing I have left is -ga spells). The old values have been left on these pages, and are shown as "monster" values, since monster-casted magic was not changed from the original formula.

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    All spells are updated, or should be. Post here if you find anything that looks awry.

    Additionally, the magic damage page has been updated with the new information for spell base damage and multipliers, as well as the incorporation of the "magic damage" statistic on new mage equipment:

    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Magic_Damage

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