The crafting & gathering thread.

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-12-12 06:16

What do you mean by "relic item"?

**Shaano** · 2014-12-12 07:05

Last phase of relics require items to craft and turn in. 3* need to HQ

**Gulkeeva** · 2014-12-12 07:27

Originally Posted by Spider-Dan

What do you mean by "relic item"?

Current 2.45 relic
3 star crafting items
http://xivdb.com/?search/perfect

desynthed items
http://xivdb.com/?search/aged

**Dammerung** · 2014-12-12 14:40

I wish the relic items were 4* instead

Nice to have DoH/DoL incorporated into the relic though.

**Waef** · 2014-12-12 16:38

Maybe I'm just lucky, but I'm loving this update. On my server, a lot of the relic items are still 800k+, with the cheapest being still over 350k. Not too much competition, and made a decent chunk of money already.

**Hiryo** · 2014-12-12 17:54

Anyone able to add http://ff14.nikeya.jp.net/crafter/en to the OP? Along with whatever other simulators are on the market.

**Eldelphia** · 2014-12-19 04:16

Anyone know what the fireplace is? I don't recognise it

http://imgur.com/a/V8HGs

**Joyo** · 2014-12-19 05:06

Originally Posted by Eldelphia

Anyone know what the fireplace is? I don't recognise it

http://imgur.com/a/V8HGs

http://xivdb.com/?item/8790/Masonwork-Stove

**Eldelphia** · 2014-12-19 05:52

Originally Posted by Joyo

http://xivdb.com/?item/8790/Masonwork-Stove

You're a star

I tried all sorts of search terms but not that one!

**Gulkeeva** · 2014-12-20 14:18

Surprised this stuff wasn't mentioned yet here

According to some people, yoshi P mentioned for 2.5, the "last of the artistan gear" will be released (crafter chest go go) and in 3.0, gatherers and crafters will have a tombstone system for gear, much like dow/dom. Not 100% confirmed as I've not seen official translations just word on the street type deal O_o

Here's to hoping MC prices go up ! Made a few dozen for 2.5 day >.>

**Niiro** · 2014-12-20 14:21

Originally Posted by Gulkeeva

gatherers and crafters will have a tombstone system for gear

Good to know that SE's solution for everything in the future is going to keep being lockouts.

At least we know to keep our expectations low as per usual.

**cute** · 2014-12-30 17:30

I have no way to view the sheet with materia and melds. Do you have a list I can use for that?

**Luthia** · 2014-12-30 19:20

Originally Posted by Gulkeeva

Surprised this stuff wasn't mentioned yet here

in 3.0 gatherers and crafters will have a tombstone system for gear, much like dow/dom.

Oh gawd if they fucking do this and add a tome lockout Im done with this game :/

**Spider-Dan** · 2014-12-31 00:45

Originally Posted by cute

I have no way to view the sheet with materia and melds. Do you have a list I can use for that?

You can use Google Docs/Google Sheets to open XLS files.

**Deuce** · 2014-12-31 10:38

Originally Posted by Luthia

Oh gawd if they fucking do this and add a tome lockout Im done with this game :/

I'd have to agree. A tome lockout for DoH/DoL would do more harm than good and probably cause me to play even less leading to an unsub.

We can only speculate at this point, but I'm hoping the devs take their head out of their asses for 3.0 because the last few patches' crafting content has been all over the place.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-12-31 11:17

If they do tome lockout, we have to be worth making something. Give us at least 10 below raid ilvl but meldable. Makes it very easily a matter of weighing options.

We'll see what they do with the craftable weapon from Dark World in 2.5. Might be a decent indication of where they plan to go.

**Luthia** · 2014-12-31 11:27

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

If they do tome lockout, we have to be worth making something. Give us at least 10 below raid ilvl but meldable. Makes it very easily a matter of weighing options.

We'll see what they do with the craftable weapon from Dark World in 2.5. Might be a decent indication of where they plan to go.

10ilvls below raiding = current tome, add materia to that = OP. I seriously doubt SE will go that route. Idk tho lol tomoe lockout for crafts and gathers just doesnt sound right.

**Niiro** · 2014-12-31 11:45

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

We'll see what they do with the craftable weapon from Dark World in 2.5. Might be a decent indication of where they plan to go.

It'll be "crafted" by Gerolt.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2014-12-31 12:09

Originally Posted by Luthia

10ilvls below raiding = current tome, add materia to that = OP. I seriously doubt SE will go that route. Idk tho lol tomoe lockout for crafts and gathers just doesnt sound right.

I think it's a fair tradeoff. Better DPS-wise vs better VIT for progression? Maybe 15 below? I dunno. Or make it better in terms of stats but start giving raid gear unique effects?

**Deuce** · 2014-12-31 14:10

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

I think it's a fair tradeoff. Better DPS-wise vs better VIT for progression? Maybe 15 below? I dunno. Or make it better in terms of stats but start giving raid gear unique effects?

Before doing any sort of token system for crafters they first need to balance how useful each craft is.

As of right now they have no idea how to do it because every patch LTW and WVR come out on top as the most profitable crafts to have. Meanwhile crafts such as ALC, CRP, CUL, and GSM get laughable roles. ARM and BSM usually come out ahead of the others, but their reliance on one another to be useful is a little annoying. Especially when you consider that if the gear ARM makes looks terrible, is terrible, and is used by classes few people play then it limits your market compared to the top two crafts.

Until they fix this obvious imbalance a token system shouldn't even be a part of he picture in my opinion. Otherwise you'll have certain crafts become flooded and others I.e. ALC will have a few per server.

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